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Scanning the Drawing and Other Annoyances

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Message 1 of 29
brodour
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Scanning the Drawing and Other Annoyances

A few questions:

1. One of our drawings for a big civil project keeps 'scanning the drawing' between every command. You select a line, it scans. You copy by basepoint, it scans, you blink, it scans. What the heck does than mean exactly and how can I make it stop? It is slowing us down and annoying us to no end.

2. Is there a way to arrange the order in which layers plot precisely- something more exact than 'send to back'? And is there a way to lock those layers in that position for plotting only? I seem to recall that in Microstation J way back when you could drag your levels up and down the drop-down menu and the order they were in dictated the order they displayed and plotted on. very easy to make sure one level was 'above' or 'below' another.

3. While I'm thinking about Microstation, is there a way to match certain attributes but not others? In Microstation you could choose to match linetype, for example, but not color or thickness. Edited by: brodour on Oct 8, 2009 2:02 PM
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Message 2 of 29
tcorey
in reply to: brodour

Question 1 I can't answer, but for 2 I have a partial answer and for 3 I have a complete answer.

2. The SORTENTS system variable will set sorting for objects to match your display order settings. Using value 32 will turn it on for plotting.

3. When you use the Match Properties command, after selecting the source object, you get an option for settings. This brings up a dialog and allows you to turn on and off those properties that you want propogated from one object to another.

Tim Corey


Tim Corey
MicroCAD Training and Consulting, Inc.
Redding, CA
Autodesk Gold Reseller

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Message 3 of 29
Anonymous
in reply to: brodour

2. Is there a way to arrange the order in which layers plot precisely-
something more exact than 'send to back'? And is there a way to lock those
layers in that position for plotting only? I seem to recall that in
Microstation J way back when you could drag your levels up and down the
drop-down menu and the order they were in dictated the order they displayed
and plotted on. very easy to make sure one level was 'above' or 'below'
another.

FYI, Microstation has the ability to assign display priority for references,
layers, and individual elements. You can also set transparency to layers,
references and individual elements. You can also disable snapping to
references and individual elements. I really miss those capabilities when
working in ACAD.
Message 4 of 29
brodour
in reply to: brodour

Tim-

Let me see if I understand this. If I set SORTENDS to 32 it will display layers in the same order they are in the Layer Properties dialog box?
Message 5 of 29
tcorey
in reply to: brodour

No. What it means is that the objects will plot in the same order as they are set in Draw Order. It has nothing to do with layers. Also, the variable is SORTENTS, not SORTENDS.

TC


Tim Corey
MicroCAD Training and Consulting, Inc.
Redding, CA
Autodesk Gold Reseller

New knowledge is the most valuable commodity on earth. -- Kurt Vonnegut
Message 6 of 29
brodour
in reply to: brodour

So there's no way to ensure that a given layer is always above or below another given layer other than DRAWORDER? No way to make sure that layer is always in the same 'order' so to speak?
Message 7 of 29
toyhonda86
in reply to: brodour

Hopefully this will answer your 1st Question.

We have found that if a layer filter is selected in the layer manager we run into this issue. Simply select All in the Layer Manager under filters and it should resolve the issue.

Adam
Adam

Windows 7 x 64
NVIDIA Quadro K2200
16 GB Ram
Intel Core i7-6700 @ 3.40 GHz
Civil 3D 2017
Message 8 of 29
dasindog
in reply to: brodour

Adam, YOU ROCK! I'm so glad you posted this. I was about to go nuts trying to figure that out.
+1 CADD Karma
-Dustin
Civil 3D 2013 64 bit SP1
Windows 7 Pro 64
Intel Xeon 2.93GHz
24GB RAM
NVIDIA Quadro FX 580
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Message 9 of 29
Leppert
in reply to: toyhonda86

That is wonderful.  That was annoying me, too.

Message 10 of 29
pizdryk
in reply to: toyhonda86

hello guys,

 

i have the same problem with drawing being scanned all the time...

i have checked all layers are marked as you told adam.

i run acad 2011 architecture.

please some suggestions?

cheers,

christopher.

Message 11 of 29
cfetherston
in reply to: brodour

Adam you are a god!

Message 12 of 29
GreeneSWCD
in reply to: brodour

Adam, and others:

 

I have "all" set under the layer filters already, and it's still scanning.  Am I not understanding something correctly? I'll attach a screen shot of where I'm looking for this magical fix. 

 

This scanning stuff is wasting all kinds of time! 

 

 

Message 13 of 29
GreeneSWCD
in reply to: GreeneSWCD

any help on this one?

Message 14 of 29
rkmcswain
in reply to: GreeneSWCD


@GreeneSWCD wrote:

any help on this one?


Have you seen this?

http://www.cadforum.cz/cadforum_en/autocad-progressbar-scanning-the-drawing-tip6807

 

 

R.K. McSwain     | CADpanacea | on twitter
Message 15 of 29
GreeneSWCD
in reply to: rkmcswain

I'm only using the standard Autocad Imperial template, and I bet I haven't added ten layers to it.  So the number of layers isn't probably the issue.  Also, according to the link you provided (thanks for that) I already have that box unchecked that it recommends. 

 

Could the scanning tile be related to the amount of RAM I have?  I only have 4 gb... 

 

I've never used "purge" before.  What exactly does that do? 

Message 16 of 29
AllenJessup
in reply to: GreeneSWCD

Purge will get rid of unused Layers, Blocks, Text Styles, etc. You can select which specificaly you want to purge or let it delete all unused items. I'd suggest reading the help entry on it for a better understanding.

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 17 of 29
MikeEvansUK
in reply to: pizdryk

From reading this thread It sounds a little like the age old floating dialogue issues we ran into in previous versions since being included.

 

Does this occur when you don't have the layer dialogue open? If not then I would sudgest going back to the Old layer dialogue [LayerDlgMode] (I haven't used the new floating one since it was incorporated and have never had this issue in R11 - 13) The other thing that has upset and hung things is the digital signitures when on.

 

Sorry still not using R2014 no real reason to cross over yet and I'm awaiting first round of Hotfixes.

Mike Evans

Civil3D 2022 English
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3820 CPU @ 3.60GHz (8 CPUs), ~4.0GHz With 32768MB RAM, AMD FirePro V4900, Dedicated Memory: 984 MB, Shared Memory: 814 MB

Message 18 of 29
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: brodour

Is there a Sheet Set involved?
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 19 of 29
GreeneSWCD
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

nope, just one layout at a time.  It usually scans everytime I go from one layout to another, or to a layout from model space. 

 

I tried SHOWLAYERUSAGE and then accepted the <0> and it hasn't scanned since.  Although it's great that I'm not wasting 30-60 seconds everytime I switch views, it bugs me not really knowing what that command is doing.  Can someone shed some light? 

 

Thanks! 

Message 20 of 29
rkmcswain
in reply to: GreeneSWCD

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