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mjung
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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

03-26-2013 11:45 AM in reply to: pmascaro

The problem I see with it is $4,730 per seat is a quite the premium to pay if you don't need "Revit" or "Robot Structural Analysis" (ie most civil firms). A better fit for this would have been part of the "Premium" Package.

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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

03-26-2013 11:50 AM in reply to: mjung

That is the only reason we would need Ultimate.  Over 3 times what the original software cost, and they haven't really improved it at all.

 

Conan Witzel

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pmascaro
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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

03-26-2013 11:51 AM in reply to: mjung

I agree. I already have Revit through another suite & Manage. I do not need anything in the Ultimate package but the River and Flood Analysis Module...

It should be included in premium and if it's not it should be available as a standalone plug-in. Maybe I should hold off until 2015 to see if things change...

(I've goten by this far w/ 2012... or are they going to cut the ties on that....

Paul R. Mascaro
CAD Supervisor | Engineering Design
ENVIRON International Corporation
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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

03-27-2013 03:15 AM in reply to: pmascaro

River analysis for 2012 is time bombed so it will stop working, I think at the end of the month.

 

The River analysis tool is so cumbersome that the in built HEC-RAS tools are better I only use it to get section data (a VBA script from 2009 can achieve this)

 

With regard to it now being part of a Suite, there is no way I would upgrade just for this tool, it could be gone again next year; where's storm and sanitary analysis on the list??

try any link to pipeline design;

http://www.autodesk.com/industry/civil-infrastructure/water-wastewater-infrastructure

 

 

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scott.sheppard
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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

03-27-2013 07:42 AM in reply to: mjung

Here's the plan:

  • AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012 users: These users should make sure they have SP1 and can continue to use the tech preview until June 30. After that they can upgrade to Autodesk Infrastructure Design Suite 2014 – Ultimate.

  • AutoCAD Civil 3D / IDS-Ultimate 2013 users:
    • AutoCAD Civil 3D users can upgrade to Autodesk Infrastructure Design Suite 2014 – Ultimate now.
    • Autodesk Infrastructure Design Suite 2013 – Ultimate users: Autodesk is targeting delivery of Autodesk River and Flood Module on Subscription center shortly as an incremental tool for all current Infrastructure Design Suite – Ultimate subscribers.
  • AutoCAD Civil 3D 2014 users: New users can start with Autodesk Infrastructure Design Suite 2014 – Ultimate

Of course things can change, but that's the plan as far as I know.



Scott Sheppard
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pmascaro
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Message 116 of 150 (1,996 Views)

Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

03-27-2013 07:42 AM in reply to: O.Maille

I too only use this to bring in the sections from Hec-Ras so I can build a surface from them and perform cut/fill analysis. The rears of the features to date have been useless to me....

 

VBA is not a viable solution, but if anyone knows of a VB.net script that will bring in cross sections and or alignments from HEC-RAS, that would be great!

 

If there is not a post for such a search already, we should create one and abandon this....

 

As for Sanitary and Storm Analysis, I'm hoping it's still in IDSS or at least in IDSP. Can anybody running 2014 confirm this?

 

Thanks,

Paul R. Mascaro
CAD Supervisor | Engineering Design
ENVIRON International Corporation
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Message 117 of 150 (1,978 Views)

Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

03-27-2013 12:29 PM in reply to: mjung

Storm and Sanitary Analysis is included with Map 3D and Civil 3D, so it isn't listed as a separate product. It's definitely included in 2014.

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erik
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Message 118 of 150 (1,921 Views)

Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

04-01-2013 02:31 PM in reply to: mjung

Add our firm to the customer segment who's situation was not appropriately addressed when it was decided to bundle River Analysis in a $6k upgrade.

 

I use civil 3d and I want to use River Analysis.  We don't want the rest of the bundle.  We are looking for River Analysis to be made available outside the Ultimate Suite.


How about an Infrastructure Suite for Hydraulics as an alternate to the standard Premium Suite?  Add River Analysis and remove the Rail, Geotechnical and Bridge Modules from the Premium, or remove Infraworks or Navisworks Simulate. Those of you at Autodesk can figure out what to bundle to make the value equivelant, but give us hydraulics people a suite that focuses on our needs.

 

Respectfully,

 

Erik 

 

 

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Message 119 of 150 (1,883 Views)

Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

04-03-2013 06:09 AM in reply to: erik
Good words Erik! I could not agree more! Jami
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Re: River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD Civil 3D / AutoCAD Map 3D

04-08-2013 12:13 PM in reply to: Yami72

can anyone please confirm if I can download and use the River Analysis Extension with Civil 3D 2013? or do i need a 2012 install?

Avishek Chhibber, P.E., CFM
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