There is a new technology preview on Autodesk Labs.
http://labs.autodesk.com/utilities/civil3d_river/
Project River Analysis Extension for AutoCAD® Civil 3D® 2012 software and AutoCAD® Map 3D® 2012 is a sophisticated river modeling software package supports HEC-RAS within the AutoCAD Civil 3D 2012 and AutoCAD Map 3D 2012 environment. This technology preview of River Analysis makes it easier than ever before to compute water surface profiles for modeling rivers, bridges, culverts, spillways, levees, floodplain and floodway delineations, stream diversions, channel improvements, and split flows.
2012 only. RAE has been on lag by one year since 2010(?) I have 2012 and 2013 on my laptop right now. 2012 specifically for RA Engine.
The technology preview of the River Analysis Extension started with 2012. The team extended the preview so that people who were already using it on 2012 could finish up. The amount of feedback they got from 2012 users was sufficient enough that they did not need to open it up to 2013 users. Now the technology so available as part of the Autodesk Infrastructure Design Suite 2014 Ultimate suite.
As I've paid for this years subs I'll see how the 2014 stuff looks but unless there is a major overhall of SSA and much improved GIS intrgration for design I think the only option is to look at other options.
As I see it many of us were hoodwinked into buying into Civil 3d back 5-6 years ago on the basis it was a design program. Aside from Novapoint-like road design and some unstable grading design there was no design and there still isn't really anything very reliable or efficient.
Realistically switchin to ArcGIS appears logical as they also have mobile based editing (arcpad) that might actually work compared to the unsuable WS. I know it's a bit off topic but I imagine Infoworks is the best alternative option for services design, windes was fine previously but appears a bit behind. Thankfully I've issued any HEC-RAS works that we have on the books or at least imported it into Hec-Ras so once the next one comes off to ArcGIS for a trial I suppose, does it deal with crossection generation from survey data?
In relation to the broader "design suites" Autodesk should consider re-naming them to be more realistic;
Drafting Suite
Technician Suite
Designer Suite
This is really where the autodesk plan is going I think.
So looking at the new Infrastructure Suite matrices, some show RAE in Premium and some show RAE only in Ultimate. There is a foot note on one of the pages saying that it is in Premium/Ultimate subscription only. We are getting ready to deploy 2014 and making the decision on upgrading a single seat to Ultimate or going the geo-RAS route. Is this for sure in the Ultimate Suite only?
Every internal email I have seen has had it in Ultimate only. (And no, I don't work on commission)
it is ultimate only.
Can you post the links where you have seen discrepencies? I will have them corrected.
Thanks for the update Dana. I can't for the life of me find the link we were looking at last week that said Premium/Ultimate. The only link I see that could still be confusing is the one provided below. Although it clearly shows a check in the ultimate column, there is a ** footnote that could use a bit more clarity maybe.
http://www.autodesk.com/suites/infrastructure-design-suite/included-software
Hi Scott,
I wondered if this extension is coming in version 2014 infrastructure premium suite or only on the ultimate, with or without a subscription?
Thanks for your time
Roberto Jim
It's now called River and Flood Analysis Module***
Automate analysis, mapping, and modeling functions for river and flood analysis.
& It only comes in Ultimate....
http://www.autodesk.com/suites/infrastructure-design-suite/included-software
The River and Flood Analysis Module is part of Infrastructue Design Suite Ultimate with subscription. Subscription is required.
Thanks!
Since Autodesk has decided to make the River Analysis Extension (RAE) part of the IDS Ultimate (As opposed to lower versions of the IDS), and some of us have been involved in the testing and evaluation process while the product was in Labs, can anyone elaborate as to what the differences are between the Labs version and the 'Production' version that comes with the Ultimate package? Has anyone compared the two? Are there new features provided beyond the Labs version? It would be good to know what (if any) there are to make a comparison and possibly an upgrade decision based in this information. Thanks in advance!
Mark D. Jones, PE
President
Hartech Engineering & Consulting, LLC
Paul,
From what I can tell, the 30-day trial does NOT include the River Analysis Extension as it is a Subscription Only add-on available to ISD Ultimate users, so there would be no way to test it. Thanks for the reply though.
Mark D. Jones, PE
Looks to be included in the Suite regardless of subscription and is also in the 30 Day trial...
http://www.autodesk.com/suites/infrastructure-design-suite/free-trial
I've spoken with our Autodesk regional sales manager and an Autodesk hydrologist / River Analysis technician from Autodesk and when I mentioned I was going to pass the trial along for testing, neither of them mentioned that it would not be in the trial...
Scott, can you confirm??
Thanks,
The River and Flood Analysis Module is a subscription benefit for IDS-U. It is downloaded from the subscription center and is not part of the trial installation.
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