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Replace COGO point with surface label

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Message 1 of 20
Joe-Bouza
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Replace COGO point with surface label

Does anyone know of a way this can be done?

 

Currently I have a grading plan that extracted COGO points from the corridor, which is good to a point (no pun). One must manually update when the corridor surface changes. I also need to reference another surface in the label style, which I can do in the SLS but not the COGO.

 

Surface label on a grid is not an option because they currently are at station intervals

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


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Message 2 of 20
jmayo-EE
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

One by one unless your programming.

John Mayo

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Message 3 of 20
Jeff_M
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

If you had the Sincpac this could be done by dynamically linking the points to the corridor surface.
Jeff_M, also a frequent Swamper
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Message 4 of 20
AllenJessup
in reply to: Jeff_M

And a very tasty way to do it too. Smiley Very Happy I find this to be invaluable when at 8 am I'm requested to modify the grading for something that needs to be staked out that day! It might be easy to modify the grades but not having to then recreate a couple of hundred points based on the new grading is very helpful!

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
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Message 5 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: jmayo-EE

Eeesh!
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
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12 GB Ram


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Message 6 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: Jeff_M

That would be excellent if I could
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


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Message 7 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: AllenJessup

Yummy, and All I get to eat is crow
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

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Message 8 of 20
Jeff_M
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Joe,

Attached is a zip file with a small .NET dll that will place a SurfaceElevationLabel at the location of selected CogoPoints. It is a quickly written, no frills, command. It does not delete the CogoPoints, it uses the Drawing's defaults for LabelStyle and Layer. All it asks is for the name of the surface to label and to select the cogopoints. VERY basic.

 

Before extracting the dll, be sure to Unblock the zip file in the file's properties.

 

Command name is CreateLabelsFromCogoPoints. Should work in C3D 2013 (tested), 2014 (tested) & 2015 (not tested).

 

 

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Message 9 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: Jeff_M

You're the best!

Greatly appreciated
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

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Message 10 of 20
Neilw_05
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Would alignment labels rather than surface labels work for you? Depending on what geometry you are wanting to label you could add a piece of reference text to an alignment label style and apply it to alignments extracted from the corridor.

 

So for example if you wanted to label the curve PC's and PT's of the edge of pavmement you could create alignments from the corridor EOP and apply the label style which could include references to the baseline stationing & finished surface elev. The labels would be automatic and dynamic.

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
WIN 10 64 PRO

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Message 11 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: Neilw_05

I do that for the PGL line, but the grading plan requires sections EOP, MIDLane, CP at 25 foot intervals. that would require a pgl layout profile for each line with a pvi every 25 ft.

 

good for the pgl but not the rest, but thanks for the input

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

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Message 12 of 20
Neilw_05
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Perhaps you didn't understand my suggestion. My idea was to extract the EOP from the corridor and make it into an alignment. Then you could set up alignment labels for the EOP alignment that label geometry points and tick intervals just as you do for a centerline. The labels would not show stations but instead would include a piece of reference text that reports the elevation of a surface, in this case the finished surface from the corridor. You would have complete control over which geometry points to label and the incremental intervals (i.e. every 25 ft). The same method could be used to create labels for backs of curbs, etc. It does not require creating profile gradelines since you are extracting the elevations from the surface. (See screen cap)

 

What I didn't anticipate is the tick interval on the offset alignments do not correspond with the ticks along the baseline of the corridor due to the difference in length along curves. Thus this approach does not give true cross sectional labels, so it is not a solution. Perhaps there is a way to show labels using the corridor sections.

 

 

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
WIN 10 64 PRO

http://www.sec-landmgt.com
Message 13 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: Neilw_05

I see what you mean now. I'll check it out tomorrow. thanks 

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


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Message 14 of 20

Get going on that, Bouza

Message 15 of 20
KirkNoonan
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Let me re-phrase to make sure I'm understanding what you are trying to do. You have your COGO points that were extraced from a corridor and you want to update them when the corridor elevations change. You also want to sample a second surface at the same location. As long as it is only the grading that changes and not the geometry, why can't you just put those points all in one group and use the 'elevations from surface' command to get them updated? You could also duplicate those points and with a little label and point style massaging use the same command to display the elevation of the second surface by means of a second point/label at the same location.

Message 16 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: KirkNoonan

Thats what I ultimately did. I was looking to skip the update step.
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

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Message 17 of 20
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: Neilw_05

oh man I had High hopes for that one. The one glitch I cant get around is the incriments, which work excellently but I need them to be at the roadway baseline incriments.I will use on site work though. Good one Neil
Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS
Message 18 of 20
Neilw_05
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

The offset tick intervals not matching the baseline is the reason I concluded this was not a solution. I've not investigated the possibility of somehow labeling cross section points in plan view. That would be closer to what we want.

Sorry I misled you.
Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
WIN 10 64 PRO

http://www.sec-landmgt.com
Message 19 of 20
tcorey
in reply to: Joe-Bouza


@Joe-Bouza wrote:
You're the best!


I second that opinion.
Jeff , I hope you're in Las Vegas this year so I can buy you a beverage or three.

 



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Message 20 of 20
Jeff_M
in reply to: tcorey

You bet I will, Tim!
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