AutoCAD Civil 3D General Discussion

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Joe-Bouza
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Re: Removing .dst from Recent Documents list

07-05-2012 01:29 PM in reply to: mjung

Aren't your civil3d dwgs model views for some sheet set? I use the model view tab on SSM the acces my civil3d and xref dwgs all the time. to me the dst list in the recent docs is a great thing. But then I use SSM for weverything

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Re: Removing .dst from Recent Documents list

07-05-2012 01:33 PM in reply to: rkmcswain

That tells me the programmer want you to use SSM to acces your drawings, no?

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Re: Removing .dst from Recent Documents list

07-05-2012 02:04 PM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Only about 1/4 of the drawings I work with are associated to a SS, so having DST's show up when I want to open a recent DWG is ludicrous, especially since once they are there they never seem to go away without performing needless trickery.

 

The good news is that I've written a standalone application to deal with these pests. We will be releasing it as a service to the community as soon as I get some final feedback from a few testers. Works outside of Autocad (and cannot be run if Autocad is running) and will cleanup all recent documents lists for both Autocad (and all verticals) and SSM, tested with versions 2009-2013.

 

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mikehathaway2942
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Re: Removing .dst from Recent Documents list

07-05-2012 02:10 PM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Only about 0.1% of the drawings I work with are associated with a sheet set.  Only reason its 0.1% is that I had to use something from our Civil side that was setup with sheet sets. Once I used it my list was FUBAR'd...

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Re: Removing .dst from Recent Documents list

07-05-2012 03:05 PM in reply to: mikehathaway2942

I'll keep playing devils advocate here because I think the statistics are misinterpreted. To accept the statistics then 99.9% of all your design work does not belong to or have any relevance to a drawing or drawing set. Could that really be true?

 

Lets look at the word associated - I'm not advocating these 99.9% design files, working drawing or whatnots are "associated" to any given sheet, but surely they have some connection to the deliverables, no?

 

On the model tab of SSM you can add folders to shortcut navigation to the 99.9% that have nothing to do with the deliverables and hence utilize SSM as a navigation tool. Since the programmers are ignoring the request to get rid of the dst from the recent docs list - I choose to go with the flow and use SSM to navigate my deliverable and the other 99.9% of my civil3d work that has absolutely nothing to do with the project.

 

I know it seems ludicrous but it works for me, and evidently the programmer in charge of the recent docs list too :smileywink:

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Re: Removing .dst from Recent Documents list

07-05-2012 03:14 PM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

It's actually less than .1%.  I have worked on well over 1000 different files in the past 3 years and only once did I come across the Sheet set manager.  Several of my techs have NEVER need or used sheet set manager ( I warn them to not open up certain design files so as to not invoke the DST wrath )  For designers the sheet set manager is fine for surveyor's it's not at all.

 

p.s... . I have no real problem with the DST issue as my workaround adds 1 extra click when accessing my drawing files and is doesn't waste any time.

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Re: Removing .dst from Recent Documents list

07-05-2012 03:46 PM in reply to: mikehathaway2942

Hi Mike

 

So if all these files have nothing to do with drawings who gets the bill? :smileywink:

 

Obviously, we have completely different working environments, and I guess that's tuff for Autodesk to make everyone happy. 

 

But wouldn't you find it helpful to have a palette on your screen that shows all the drawings you are currently working on? You could even do it with an empty SheetSet and keep the model tab on top.

 

What kind of "Wrath" have you encountered? My experience with SSM has been pretty stellar?

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Re: Removing .dst from Recent Documents list

07-06-2012 04:38 AM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Joe-Bouza wrote:

That tells me the programmer want you to use SSM to acces your drawings, no?


If you run across any of my forum and/or blog posts over the past years, you will see that I am a huge proponent of Sheet Set Manager. It is easily one of the best new features introduced over the past decade. But that has nothing to do with my (or anyone else's) workflow.

 

I use SSM daily, but I also do a lot of support and debugging - which means I often open dwg files that I ordinarily would have no interest it. If a particular drawing is associated with a SS, then the .DST gets added to my recent list and there is sits, seemingly forever....when I'll never need it again.

 

I think a filter on the recent list would server most people. You could set it to ignore .DST files if desired.

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Re: Removing .dst from Recent Documents list

07-06-2012 08:44 AM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

In a perfect world... AutoCAD would be perfect!  Alas, we must work in an imperfect world.  There are old drawings, new drawings, drawings that have never been part of a project that was added to SSM.  I get bounced around all the time by various PM's and invariably I need to work on a drawing that has never been near a SheetSet.  If I go back to the SheetSet I was working with and then the PM comes back for yet another revision I must browse to the file location among hundreds or even thousands of folders.  Since I know where the file is it usually doesn't take more than 30 seconds or so but that is about 28 seconds longer than picking it off of a recent file list.  In AutoCAD's vision of a perfect world everything will be in a SheetSet.  Never mind that setting up a sheetset for just one or two drawings is more trouble than it is worth.  If the project is large, old, and essentially complete it can be a serious waste of time to create a new sheetset to manage the drawings with.

 

Don't get me wrong.  I make a sheetset every time I can just to access the publish tools if nothing else; however, if there are very many drawings it will take some time to get the sheetset right and I don't always get enough time budgeted to retrofit a sheetset to a old project.  Then I must resort to our old homebrewed project management software.

 

Jeff M, I am anxiously looking forward to your standalone app to help with this problem.

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Re: Removing .dst from Recent Documents list

07-06-2012 02:42 PM in reply to: rkmcswain

Gee RK, sorry, I must have been over looking them :smileywink:

 

..."That has nothing to do with my (or anyone else's){? curious} workflow."... Kinda harsh for offering a suggestion, aye?

 

 I didn'realize the zeal for the recent docs. consider my mouth shut on the topic


 

 

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People) Civil 3D 2012 & 2013
HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


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