Profile View Behavior?

[Aaron_S]

Is there any way to freeze a profile view in a viewport without having the profiles disappear?

To make things more complicated, there is one item from the profile view (the bottom station labels) I want to keep visible.

Summary: Profiles and bottom stations labels visible in the viewport... everything else frozen or does not plot.

Help please...?

[SpagCivil]

Probably have to create another viewport just for the band. A little viewport magic....

[Aaron_S]

That would be fine, but every no plot setting I use on the profile view causes the stations not to plot - even if I specify a different layer in the profile view style.

[Anonymous]

You have to have the compenent entities of the view (grid lines, labels,
etc.) layered to something other than profile view object layer, then freeze
the individuals, as desired, being sure to leave the profile view layer
on/plottable.

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That would be fine, but every no plot setting I use on the profile view
causes the stations not to plot - even if I specify a different layer in the
profile view style.

[Aaron_S]

I was trying to avoid specifying layers in the styles themselves to avoid having a bunch of layers that can't be purged. But I can see where this would work.

Maybe I could freeze layer 0 in the viewports, since that is what's set in the profile view style? Then I wouldn't have to make more layers.

Hmmm....

[Sinc]

NO! Don't do anything that requires you to freeze Layer 0, even in a viewport.

[Anonymous]

Forgive me for saying this, but you're avoiding the solution. If all of the
component entities are on 0, and the profile view is on 0, freezing 0 will
freeze everything. If the component entities are on layer 0 and the view is
on layer "Profile View", freezing layer 0 will have absolutely no effect.

The whole point is to isolate by layers things you want to control
visibility/appearance for.

wrote in message news:5835559@discussion.autodesk.com...
I was trying to avoid specifying layers in the styles themselves to avoid
having a bunch of layers that can't be purged. But I can see where this
would work.

Maybe I could freeze layer 0 in the viewports, since that is what's set in
the profile view style? Then I wouldn't have to make more layers.

Hmmm....

[Sinc]

Perhaps I should clarify...

It's OK to TEMPORARILY freeze layer 0 when performing certain tasks, but it should always be unfrozen again pretty quickly. And don't ever do anything that makes you want to leave Layer 0 frozen, even in a viewport. Too many things in Civil-3D MUST be on Layer 0 in order to function correctly, and if you freeze Layer 0 for one purpose, you may find lots of unrelated entities disappear on you.

[Civil3D Groupies]

i dont think it would create so many layers just to freeze the profile view... follow what Tom wrote and you should be fine...

[Aaron_S]

I wish i had read this sooner before you all replied because now I feel like a dummy. I tried the whole layer 0 thing after I posted... big mistake. Too much stuff is on layer 0.

I think the best way is to set the layer of the lines, etc. (in the profile view style) to a layer we will have in every drawing anyway (like the layer for our title blocks.) Since the layer itself doesn't really matter because the colors and linetypes can be controlled in the style, I can use a layer that would never be in model space and freeze that in the viewport.

You're absolutely right about leaving layer 0 alone. It is too mystical to be messed with.

[Anonymous]

Another thought for you:

We have Civil3D "object layers", surfaces on a surface layer, etc. This
permits you to (easily) freeze all surfaces (and thereby all contours, etc.)
in a viewport that is displaying only profiles.

I don't see 'extra' layers a problem. Extra layers that aren't well thought
are another matter, entirely, of course. A little bit of
thought/organization makes dealing with the layers quite transparent.

wrote in message news:5835805@discussion.autodesk.com...
I wish i had read this sooner before you all replied because now I feel like
a dummy. I tried the whole layer 0 thing after I posted... big mistake.
Too much stuff is on layer 0.

I think the best way is to set the layer of the lines, etc. (in the profile
view style) to a layer we will have in every drawing anyway (like the layer
for our title blocks.) Since the layer itself doesn't really matter because
the colors and linetypes can be controlled in the style, I can use a layer
that would never be in model space and freeze that in the viewport.

You're absolutely right about leaving layer 0 alone. It is too mystical to
be messed with.

[Bryan_S]

Go to your profile view style and to the Display tab within it. Turn off and on what you want to show up or not. This is for the display of the grid lines, stations, elevations, title, ect..., but not the actual profile lines. If you have mulitple profile views in the file and only want to do this for one of them, for example, then copy the existing profile view style and make the changes in that one. Then, click the profile view and change to the different style.

[Anonymous]

Aaron S wrote:

> Is there any way to freeze a profile view in a viewport without
> having the profiles disappear?
>
> To make things more complicated, there is one item from the profile
> view (the bottom station labels) I want to keep visible.
>
> Summary: Profiles and bottom stations labels visible in the
> viewport... everything else frozen or does not plot.
>
> Help please...?

Create a new Profile View style with everything turned off in the
display tab - this will leave your only your profiles and the label band
visible. If you need to alter the label band, create a new style for the
data that it contains and switch to that.

If you want to do this in only one viewport - create two profile views
and use the appropriate style on each one - one for full display in one
viewport and another for partial display in another viewport.

Karl Fuls