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Message 1 of 13
CADmgrMike
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Profile labels

I created a profile label (see attachment) that labels the tangent grade at the middle of a profile line.

The problem is it will only the line in the first profile. If a second profile includes part of that same line, I can't label the line in the second profile.

What am I missing?

 

 

Mike Porter
https://provostandpritchard.com/
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Message 2 of 13
sboon
in reply to: CADmgrMike

Need to clarify your terminology first.  Do you have two separate profile views and cannot label the line in one of them, or do you have a single split profile view?

 

Steve
Expert Elite Alumnus
Message 3 of 13
CADmgrMike
in reply to: sboon

It is a series of separate profile views for plan & profile sheets.

So a single profile tangent line may start in one profile view and end in another view.

When I created the label, I used "tangent grade" for the field and "tangent mid point for the insertion point of the label.

 

I can accomplish something similar by using a profile view label and picking two points on the profile line, but then that label isn't tied to the profile line so it wouldn't automaticallly update if the profile changes.

 

Thanks for the help,

Mike Porter
https://provostandpritchard.com/
Message 4 of 13
sboon
in reply to: CADmgrMike

Your problem is that the tangent mid point used for the insertion of the label doesn't fall within the profile view, so it isn't displayed.  You'll need to make use of the "in view" anchor options to do this.  Unfortunately Autodesk did not provide us with an Anchor Tangent Midpoint in View option on the list, but you can get around this problem by creating a construction line for the label to attach to.

 

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Edit your label style by adding a line component.  This line will start at the Anchor Tangent Start in View, and end at the Anchor Tangent End in View.  Once you're happy that it's working then turn off the Visibility switch for the line.  Now you can change the anchor point for the text to the midpoint of that new line.

 

Note - this style will not work for split profile views, the temporary line gets drawn from the start to the end, not parallel to the tangent.

Steve
Expert Elite Alumnus
Message 5 of 13
tcorey
in reply to: sboon

Nice solution, Steve.



Tim Corey
MicroCAD Training and Consulting, Inc.
Redding, CA
Autodesk Gold Reseller

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Message 6 of 13
sboon
in reply to: tcorey

Thanks.  There are some interesting tricks that you can do with labels using construction lines, and offset values.

Steve
Expert Elite Alumnus
Message 7 of 13
CADmgrMike
in reply to: sboon

Nice!

I think this will give me what I want.

What's frustrating is that it's always another workaround to do something that seems like an elementary request.

So goes my love/hate saga with C3D.  Smiley Frustrated

 

Thanks,

Mike Porter
https://provostandpritchard.com/
Message 8 of 13
sboon
in reply to: CADmgrMike

But once you have the workaround you can add it to your template and it becomes part of the toolset that you use every day.  That's really the big advantage for Civil3d users - once you have something that works it becomes the new normal for you.

Steve
Expert Elite Alumnus
Message 9 of 13
CADmgrMike
in reply to: sboon

Capture.JPGSteve,

I added a line component using Anchor Tangent Start in View and End in View, but it still won't draw that line in the second profile view.

I attached a picture to try and show what's happening. The green line just above elev 390 is the line component attached to the profile line. As you can see in the profile view on the left, the line goes to STA 124+00, but it doesn't show in the second view from STA 124-125 even though I have that profile labeled with the same label.

 

Mike Porter
https://provostandpritchard.com/
Message 10 of 13
sboon
in reply to: CADmgrMike

I copied a style in one of the tutorial drawings.  Check this file and see if it will work for you.

Steve
Expert Elite Alumnus
Message 11 of 13
CADmgrMike
in reply to: sboon

I figured it out finally!!

I had the start station for my label beginning at the start of my profile view and it has to be at least before the start of the tangent line.

Capture.JPG

 

Thanks for all your help, Smiley Very Happy

Mike Porter
https://provostandpritchard.com/
Message 12 of 13
CADmgrMike
in reply to: CADmgrMike

Now I need another piece of the puzzle if possible.

The engineers I work with want the (-) symbol removed from from the grade label, and the arrow I created always points to the right regardless of flow direction.

Is there a way to add an arrow to this profile label and have it always point in the flow direction?

 

Mike Porter
https://provostandpritchard.com/
Message 13 of 13
Mark_Castle
in reply to: CADmgrMike

We've been able to set up a style for surface slope arrows where the arrow always points downhill by using an expression in the style. Maybe the same idea would work for profiles. See this post:

 

http://blog.civil3dreminders.com/2007/12/slope-arrow-direction.html

Mark Castle
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