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Problem Reimporting FBK

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Message 1 of 14
jezzell
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Problem Reimporting FBK

Lets start out by saying this did not happen in any other version of Civil 3d. We recently did a computer upgrade to our office. So when it came time to reload civil 3d, we chose to go with 2012 version. All was fine until I had to reimport an fbk.

I will typically start out by stripping the control loop out of the fbk file and balancing and making a text file of the loop (backup). Then I will bring in the rest of the location on to the balanced loop. If for some reason I need to reimport those locations for some reason it will remove any control points occupied in the last fbk file. Please let me know if something has changed or if the fbk file looks in correct.

 

Any help is appreciated

Windows 7 x 64 Professional
Clevo Laptop
Nvidia Quadro M3000
24 GB DDR3
256GB SSD
Quad core i7-6700k @ 4.0 GHz
Civil 3D 2015 SP3
Civil 3D 2017
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Message 2 of 14
ToddRogers-WPM
in reply to: jezzell

Are you creating Networks?



Todd Rogers
BIM Manager
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Message 3 of 14
jezzell
in reply to: ToddRogers-WPM

yes I am creating network,

Windows 7 x 64 Professional
Clevo Laptop
Nvidia Quadro M3000
24 GB DDR3
256GB SSD
Quad core i7-6700k @ 4.0 GHz
Civil 3D 2015 SP3
Civil 3D 2017
Message 4 of 14
ToddRogers-WPM
in reply to: jezzell

I am assuming you have all Updates and Hotfixes installed?

 

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/ps/dl/index?siteID=123112&id=2334435&linkID=9240698#section2



Todd Rogers
BIM Manager
Blog | Twitter | LinkedIn

Message 5 of 14
jezzell
in reply to: ToddRogers-WPM

Yes We are currently up todate.

Windows 7 x 64 Professional
Clevo Laptop
Nvidia Quadro M3000
24 GB DDR3
256GB SSD
Quad core i7-6700k @ 4.0 GHz
Civil 3D 2015 SP3
Civil 3D 2017
Message 6 of 14
jrauch
in reply to: jezzell

Any news on this?

-John J. Rauch, P.E.
Message 7 of 14
jezzell
in reply to: jezzell

No Still having the same problem. I have a work around, strip all control in to one fbk file and and all sideshots into another fbk file. I need to import the control file into one Survey Network (control) and then import any other fbk file into a different network (sideshots). Seems to be the only way to fix this.

Not a good remedy on large scale jobs that continue to grow.

 

Seems like a little to involved and should be easier.

Windows 7 x 64 Professional
Clevo Laptop
Nvidia Quadro M3000
24 GB DDR3
256GB SSD
Quad core i7-6700k @ 4.0 GHz
Civil 3D 2015 SP3
Civil 3D 2017
Message 8 of 14
IanMcClain
in reply to: jezzell

I am have the same problem with 2012. You are correct: earlier versions did not do this. Re-importing is now very cumbersome. It has been broken and needs to be fixed by AutoDesk.

Ian McClain
Message 9 of 14
jezzell
in reply to: IanMcClain

The fix That I came uo with is to make a network for every import event, Yes still cumbersom but it does work.

 

I should be put back the way It was in previous versions!!

Windows 7 x 64 Professional
Clevo Laptop
Nvidia Quadro M3000
24 GB DDR3
256GB SSD
Quad core i7-6700k @ 4.0 GHz
Civil 3D 2015 SP3
Civil 3D 2017
Message 10 of 14
_Hathaway
in reply to: jezzell

We stopped using FBK files as they seem like more of a hassle than they are worth. We merely import the CSV file. Sure, the FBK can get you all sort of fancy information but it's somewhat dysfunctional as you have pointed out.
Message 11 of 14
IanMcClain
in reply to: jezzell

Hallelujah! You just made my day.

 

So now I just need to make a network for importing adjusted control and a second network for fbks and then re-importing behaves like it used to.

 

Now if I can only remember to do that from now on with out blasting my control the first time and then remembering this post...still should be fixed by Autodesk.

Ian McClain
Message 12 of 14
IanMcClain
in reply to: _Hathaway

A big advantage of FBK is you can go survey without your final control and just use relative coordinates. Since FBK uses the observation data you don't have to wait or adjust your sideshots in another software to get them on the same datum. It's very usefull when you have large jobs and need to divide the work between multiple crews.

Ian McClain
Message 13 of 14
jezzell
in reply to: IanMcClain

Yes thats what I do! Now if only the field crew could remember the procedures

Windows 7 x 64 Professional
Clevo Laptop
Nvidia Quadro M3000
24 GB DDR3
256GB SSD
Quad core i7-6700k @ 4.0 GHz
Civil 3D 2015 SP3
Civil 3D 2017
Message 14 of 14
_Hathaway
in reply to: IanMcClain

Yes, I'm aware of that scenario and we do still use FBK files for certain instances as you've described.

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