I've had a need for this type of table information as well. What boggles my mind is that ALL the information is right there in two different parts. Why on earth Autodesk hasn't released a Patch / HotFix with a new point label that includes coding for it's location relative to an alignments station and offset, and point table that can display the info.
Sometimes, I wonder what Civil Engineers Autodesk actually consulted to help them design parts of this program. (Don't get me started.
They need to release something to address this. IT can't be that hard to create the styles to tap into this information (that already exists.)
I hope they address this sooner than later.
There were some free routines which I downloaded from either this DG or the web (can't remember now) in the past and they work very well and do what you want. If you can't find it you can e-mail me at kckkim AT hotmail DOT COM
Andrew
Hi J Thompson,
It really gets to me that civil 3d cannot do this and many other table / reports that should be standard. Here is my work around, it is not exactly what you asked (i.e. not a c3d table) but may be another choice in how you resolve your issue.
Create your alignment
Create or import the points you need to relate to that aligment
Go to toolspace / toolbox / report manager / points / station offset to points.
Execute the report but save the output file to excel format (change it from the default HTML format)
Edit the excel file if you need to to get it look the way you want. Tip: use find and replace in excel to make mass changes.
Copy the excel data
Paste into c3d using Paste Special / Autocad enties /
It will now be in c3d as a table. Format as you need.
Attached is an example of the final result , also added to this one are the point co-ordinates at the excel stage . It takes about 10 minutes form start to finish, but obviously is not dynamic.
This type of report or table should be standard in civil 3d. There should be a General Table option, in which all the variables from alignments, profiles, points, surfaces, pipes, sites etc should be accessible to cross reference them as required. Here you go Autodesk I will even offer a name for it - a Super Table.
Regards,
Ben
Another option to consider is the MapWorks Points module, it's Point Report allows you to select an alignment to reference. You can control which fields are displayed and in which order.
Workaround:
Use a pipe network of just structures. A structures table can be configured to only show the structure ID (Label), Station, and Offset.
The structure symbol can be changed to nothing (blank), or the X block symbol, instead of the circle with an S in it. Then simply change the structure labels to 100, 101, 102, etc., OR turn them off on the structures, and set the table column for them to a non-print color. Then add manual labels for your purpose (Const. Documents, or Figures)
I'm creating a blank Civil 3D file with the needed styles set up, then my users can insert the drawing and proceed. The Pipe network is names "Station & Offset Table Network', with a description, 'This network is for creating Station & Offset tables, NOT for utility entities.'
The table lines can be turned off and added manually if preferred.
The main goal of making a dynamic stations and offsets table is achieved.
I still feel Autodesk is missing a lot of common sense functions and controls, but this workaround seems to work and excepted by the staff. (At least until Autodesk gets on track with these sorts of things.)
The results actually look pretty good. Good Luck
That is a great work around. I appreciate you sharing the idea. Take care
Jim Haglund
KPG, Inc
I find it funny how the Austrailia / New Zealand Country Kit will output a report that allows the user to create a point report showing station and offset, by selecting a point group.
See the attached picture taken from the country kit documentation.
The work is done Autodesk - why not make it available to everyone!!
Interesting... That report is in the US version, too, but the US version does not let us select points by Point Group. Other than that, it looks the same.
In any case, that report isn't the same thing as being able to create dynamic station/offset tables in your C3D drawing, the way you can with the Sincpac-C3D, or with the pipe network hack mentioned above.
Hi Kevin,
Did you execute that report from the reports manager? I'm using c3d2010 ANZ and it doesn't have the option to select by point group? Maybe they have taken it out for versions after 2009?
Regards,
Ben
A college of mine said....
Don't use a bunch of STA/OFFSET LABELS or POINTS.......use "structures" in a PIPE NETWORK instead.
Did you know that "structures" in a PIPE NETWORK dynamically reference alignments?
Here's the steps:
#1) Create a "new structure style" that's empty
#2) Add a bunch of STRUCTURES all over the place.
#3) Create a DYNAMIC TABLE with Station Offsets and select those structures
#4) Move any structure....and the table will automatically update the station offsets.
Sure, that might be difficult to do......and sure you can XREF and share LABELS or POINTS......but instead of XREF'n......you can SHARE a PIPE NETWORK using a DATA SHORTCUT, and create a separate DYNAMIC TABLE. WOW!
Gotta love technology.
A college of mine said....
Don't use a bunch of STA/OFFSET LABELS or POINTS.......use "structures" in a PIPE NETWORK instead.
Did you know that "structures" in a PIPE NETWORK dynamically reference alignments?
Here's the steps:
#1) Create a "new structure style" that's empty
#2) Add a bunch of STRUCTURES all over the place.
#3) Create a DYNAMIC TABLE with Station Offsets and select those structures
#4) Move any structure....and the table will automatically update the station offsets.
Sure, that might be difficult to do......and sure you can XREF and share LABELS or POINTS......but instead of XREF'n......you can SHARE a PIPE NETWORK using a DATA SHORTCUT, and create a separate DYNAMIC TABLE. WOW!
Gotta love technology.
Hey,
I am using the pipeworks structure chart as a way to get a dynamic report showing point no, N, E, Elev., Sta, OS.
My question is: Can I edit what "structures" show up in this tabele? I have several plan/pro sheets and I only want the points that show up on a particular sheet to show up in the tabel that will appear on that sheet. Some points are unique to that sheet, some show up on more than one sheet. Do I need to create a "pipe network" for each sheet?
thanks
nevermind - I see where I can select the structures I want in a table in the create table dialog.
I posted this other question onto a thread about funtions in the text composer/editor box in table cell contents and label style dialogs. I want the table to use the insertion point from the surface at each structure but add 2 inches to this. Possible?
Hi all,
My issue is a little bit easier but doesn’t work with me.
I wanted to create points at all the stations of an alignment at a time such that these points are saved in the g2 group (please, have a look on the screenshot below).
I tried it but couldn’t create these points at all stations at a time
Thank you for the help
Best
Jamal
Looks interesting....
The Sincpac-C3D DisplayPoints command had lots of options for creating points at various offsets, but doesn't currently save it to a Point Group. If you have consistent Point Numbers/Names, or consistent Descriptions, then you can sort on one of those colums and add whatever you want to a Point Group. But it's a two-step process, rather than a one-step processs.
We'll add that to the list of improvements that are planned to the command.
I would have posted a link to the help file for the DisplayPoints command, but I recently updated my Firefox and it won't let me do it anymore. Really annoying (maybe time to abandon Firefox?). But I think I can paste a link:
http://www.quuxsoft.com/SincpacC3D_Help/SP_DisplayPoints.htm
This command could help simplify things, especially if you do it a lot.
It wiil not be dynamic but one would not expect too much change in this type data: Station offset report in the tool box>>. asci file to Excel import as a table.
I guess that table would be dynamic to any manul changes to the points
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