Plan Production - Matchline Stations in Title Block?

[jmayo-EE]

Is it possible to get matchline stations into a title block text string?

[doni49]

John,

I think it SHOULD BE possible to do so via an add-in (VBA?) but until I get acad installed at home, I have no access to the API so I can't confirm or deny that.

You might want to ask this over in the C3D customization forum.

[jmayo-EE]

So I'm SOOL OOTB.....

[Cadguru42]

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@doni49 wrote:

John,

I think it SHOULD BE possible to do so via an add-in (VBA?) but until I get acad installed at home, I have no access to the API so I can't confirm or deny that.

You might want to ask this over in the C3D customization forum.

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Yet another reason Civil 3D isn't a real BIM.

[doni49]

I can't say that it's NOT possible OOTB as I've only used the P&P tools a few times.  But from what I've seen, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for someone to show me how.

[MarySeufert]

I have used Sheet Set custom properties and fields to accomplish this.

[jmayo-EE]

Well I'll keep bumping this. I have only turned a pale blue at this point I think I can hold my breath for a darker shade or two. 😉

[Jeff_M · Accepted solution]

I do this using Plan Production to name the Layout based on the stations, then have the attributes in the title block use the sheet/layout name obtained from the SheetSet.

[Cadguru42]

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@MarySeufert wrote:

I have used Sheet Set custom properties and fields to accomplish this.

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That's what I do. But it's pretty sad that something that's supposed to be a BIM and creates automatic match lines cannot let a MTEXT field read the match line station for sheet titles. 

[doni49]

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@jmayo wrote:

Well I'll keep bumping this. I have only turned a pale blue at this point I think I can hold my breath for a darker shade or two. 😉

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too funnytoo funny!  🙂

[doni49]

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@Jeff_M wrote:

I do this using Plan Production to name the Layout based on the stations, then have the attributes in the title block use the sheet/layout name obtained from the SheetSet.

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Wow.  I guess you can breath now John!  🙂  Thanks Jeff -- I learned something new today.

[doni49]

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@engrtech wrote:

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@MarySeufert wrote:

I have used Sheet Set custom properties and fields to accomplish this.

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That's what I do. But it's pretty sad that something that's supposed to be a BIM and creates automatic match lines cannot let a MTEXT field read the match line station for sheet titles. 

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Even bigger is the fact that the P&P tools create the sheets including adding them to SSM.  The tool could easily add a "station range" property to each one of these sheets.

[jmayo-EE]

Thank you all. Sorry Mary Jeff gets the solution because the detail he provided allows me to get going.

Breathing better now. 🙂

[doni49]

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@Jeff_M wrote:

I do this using Plan Production to name the Layout based on the stations, then have the attributes in the title block use the sheet/layout name obtained from the SheetSet.

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Jeff,

I have one question about this method.  What happens when the matchline is moved?  For this method to work, do you have to rename the layout?  If so, is that any better than updating the SSM property?

[jmayo-EE]

Good question..

[MarySeufert]

Hehe, I'm too much of a control freek to use plan production anyways!

[jmayo-EE]

Too funny. In my old job sheet sets were typically less than 10 sheets. Most of them 2 or 3 and I did not see much time savings with the P&P tools. Now I have 40-60 sheets... I need to learn these now. 😮

[Jeff_M]

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@doni49 wrote:

Jeff,

I have one question about this method.  What happens when the matchline is moved?  For this method to work, do you have to rename the layout?  If so, is that any better than updating the SSM property?

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This is where this method is lacking. The Viewframes, matchlines, sheet names, etc. are tied together in a very strange, uneditable, way. So moving matchlines after sheet creation is really not a very good idea....matchlines often lose their stationing, SSM cannot find the correct sheet, etc. So, in the case where I MUST move a matchline, I will usually recreate the sheet.

Now, if Autodesk would allow us to make edits to paths, dwg names, (or automatically do this when moving them) it would make this process easier. But their view on this is that we never need to change the locations of match lines, so it's a "one and done" approach.

[doni49]

So I guess that in John's case of 40-60 sheets, this could be useful for the initial sheet setup but if the matchlines need to be moved..........