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jwhal
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Pipe inverts from cogo point elevation?

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09-13-2011 04:30 AM

I have a couple of hundred driveway culverts to draw. I've drawn a few of them so far, but I would like to speed up the process if possible. Right now I create the pipes the standard way, edit the pipe properties and manually type the inverts. I may be missing something, but is it possible to have the pipe invert inherit the elevation of a cogo point during the pipe creation? They all seem to default to -2.xxx m elevation, for whatever reason, yet the cogo points are above 35m..

 

Jon

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Joe-Bouza
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Re: Pipe inverts from cogo point elevation?

09-13-2011 05:01 AM in reply to: jwhal

I'm not sure, but pipe rules may be of some help.

 

Wait a minute! You can create a FL of the COGO then convert the FL to pipe network.

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Re: Pipe inverts from cogo point elevation?

09-13-2011 05:03 AM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Thanks Joe. I thought I looked through those, but will look again.

 

Jon

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Re: Pipe inverts from cogo point elevation?

09-13-2011 05:18 AM in reply to: jwhal

Unfortunately I see nothing in the pipe rules that would help. I tried using feature lines, create pipe network from objects and merging pipe networks, but that ends up being more work due to extra networks, sites, deleting unnecessary structures, swapping part sizes, etc. I'm not really saving any steps here. If there is no way to do this using the regular pipe creation tools, then perhaps this will make it onto the wishlist (I'll add to the appropriate forum).

 

Jon

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Re: Pipe inverts from cogo point elevation?

09-13-2011 07:12 AM in reply to: jwhal

Hi Jon-

 

By default, if no rules are applied, and you have snapped to the node of cogo points, the centreline elevation of the pipes should reflect the elevation of the cogo points you have snapped to. I realize this does not help as you want the inverts to reflect the cogo point elevations, but I thought it was worth mentioning as you may be able to use this info to try another method.

 

I have poked around to see if this can be changed from centerline to invert whening snapping to nodes, but I have yet to find such a setting. I will keep looking and let you know if I find something... others may chime in too.



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jwhal
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Re: Pipe inverts from cogo point elevation?

09-13-2011 07:48 AM in reply to: SethHall

Thanks Seth. I'll wait a while longer before I add this to the wishlist.

 

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Re: Pipe inverts from cogo point elevation?

09-13-2011 09:09 AM in reply to: jwhal

If thats a 10-4 ... Please select "accept solution" so other readers may be aware of your solution

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Re: Pipe inverts from cogo point elevation?

09-13-2011 09:32 AM in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Joe:

 

If he is adding this to his wish list, perhaps that would not be a solution.

 

Bill

 

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Re: Pipe inverts from cogo point elevation?

09-13-2011 03:26 PM in reply to: wfberry

Details, details... Sure sounds like a solution. ... uhph... looks like it is <G>

 

 

Perhaps autodesk should come by and wipe our noses twice a day to make life easier?

Thank you

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Re: Pipe inverts from cogo point elevation?

09-13-2011 09:48 PM in reply to: jwhal

We often do as-builts of pipelines and have developed a workflow for it.  Perhaps not so good for several disconected pipes (which I think you're referring to).

 

1. Create an alignment and profile from the points.  We create the alignment manually (if the point numbers are sequential along the pipe you might be able to automate the alignment creation), and then use a utility that creates the profile after selecting the alignment and the points.

2. Create a featureline from the align/profile ("Create feature line from alignment").

3. Use the "Create pipe network from object" command to create your pipes from the featureline. This command allows you to set the relationship of the featureline to the pipe as either outside top (fantastic for as-builts done while the trench is open), crown, CL, invert, or outside bottom)

 

It'd be great if there was some way to make this workflow a bit simpler.  

 

Anyhow maybe that'll help (and maybe someones got an idea for making it simpler).

 

 

 

 

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