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MTEXT Field data location

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Message 1 of 22
atklump
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MTEXT Field data location

Using C3d 2013.

 

Where do I find the PI data of an alignment object to plug into a mtext Field?

Field Category and Field Name and any other steps to locating it would be helpful.

 

Thanks,

Adam

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Message 2 of 22
AllenJessup
in reply to: atklump

I don't see where you can get that in to an MText field. I always use a Civil 3D label as shown here:

 

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Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 3 of 22
atklump
in reply to: AllenJessup

Thanks, but I am trying to generate a label that pulls data from multiple objects (an alignment, a pipe network part and the PI).  For example:

 

PROP. 6' DIA. MH S-1

STA. = 13+23.53

Δ = LT 12°25' 15"

 

Where 6', MH, S-1, 13+23.53, LT and 12°25' 15" are 6 individual fields.  I figured out most of them, but am having trouble with the deflection angle components. 

 

I posted another question on where to find it under the pipe network part label reference text because that would be just as useful (no response to it yet).  Due to the ease of working with mtext and annotative text, I was hoping to find a solution to both methods.

 

Thanks,

Adam

Message 4 of 22
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: atklump

C3d does not support fields. Allen is correct to use c3d labels. You can add reference text in a label style to pull from other objects

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

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Message 5 of 22
atklump
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Alright, then please tell me where to find the PI's Deflection Angle in the pipe network part's label Text Component Editor.  I don't see it as one of the options under any of the Reference Text types.

Message 6 of 22
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: atklump

I looked close r and see you trouble: reference alignment parameters do not include the delta. you may have to use a seperate alignment label to include these values in plan

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
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Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

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Message 7 of 22
atklump
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

So what seems should be a simple reference text to a label turns out to be an impossible task for C3D?  I will have to mess with double the labels then?  Or is there a way to append a label to another label?

 

Everyday, I find a new reason to hate AutoDesk.  Can't wait for ESRI GIS to catch up on the drafting tools.

 

Thanks for your time Joe.

Message 8 of 22
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: atklump

Now before go off hating c3d - I'm not be be all and end all to what can be done with styles, Unfortunately no one else chimed in.

 

Since I have your ear and you revealed you lean toward the GIS side. could you explaing to me how to create a multiling label usning the planning and analysis work space?

 

I used the dialog to add label thinking I only had to add a label for each property but only one property shows?

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

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Message 9 of 22
atklump
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Sorry to have misled you.  My knowledge of GIS is more limited than my C3D knowledge.  I just know the data management tools are a lot more useful, comparing and manipulating data is freely done across any of the data (where C3D restricts it) and the ArcMap program in general has a lot less bugs than C3D.  But the GIS Manager at our office may know.  I'll pick his brain and get back to you.

Our primary client requires drawings in AutoCAD format.  But I think we could convert them if the drawing capabilities were there.  If that were the case, then I might be better suited to answer your question.

I only hate AutoDesk because they repeatedly put out well below standard quality products that continue to crash or freeze or don't function as described in their documentation.  I wish they would just take a year or two and work out all the issues and limitations with their current product instead of adding new features.  Then I could see paying that absurd subscription cost.  Sorry, I rant sometimes.

 

Later

Message 10 of 22
atklump
in reply to: atklump

How do I move the later portion of this post to the other post that identifies the label aspects?  I want this one to go back to the original question posed regarding MTEXT and how to make these notes with fields.

Message 11 of 22
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: atklump

Does it matter? My first response is correct; there is no way (with out programing) to get c3d info int a field.

 

Cut and paste, but that would be double posting a double post Smiley Surprised

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
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12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

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Message 12 of 22
wfberry
in reply to: atklump

Deflections are included if you use an Alignment with your pipes.  It is under Label Styles, Tangent Intersection.

 

Bill

 

Message 13 of 22
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: wfberry

yes but you can't access it from the structure label style

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

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Message 14 of 22
atklump
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Sorry Joe,

No luck on the multiling labeling in GIS.  Our two GIS guys don't work with labels often enough to know.

Message 15 of 22
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: atklump

Thanks for looking

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

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Message 16 of 22

Civil 3D doesn't have a pipe line / structure label like this of label built in.

 

I would make two labels and place them on together. The structure label would label the size and number, and the aligment label would label the turned angle. I might add a short line seg to the "top" label so that I could snap the "bottom" label into position.

 

Regards,

 

Peter Funk

Autodesk, Inc.



Peter Funk
Autodesk, Inc.

Message 17 of 22

Thanks Peter

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
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Message 18 of 22
atklump
in reply to: peterfunkautodesk

Peter,

 

It appears you are an employee of autodesk.  Could you find out why wouldn't autodesk have labels generated to function similar to mtext?  Be able to add fields to the labels, and make it annotative to improve efficiency of labeling?

 

They made something that seems very robust, but if the general user can't figure it out intuitively, then it is relatively worthless.  Small companies can't afford the additional training required to optimize this stuff, especially when it can barely afford the subscription. 

 

The work around doesn't work when you have it oriented different in various viewports.

 

Thanks for the suggestion though Peter.

Adam

Message 19 of 22
Hidden_Brain
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Joe,

not sure if I completely grasped your question about multiline label (your question was on ArcGIS or Map 3D?), but are you trying to add labels composed of multiple lines pulling info from different attribute fields in ArcGIS? if so, you may be able to accomplish what you need with VB label expression using the  vbCrLf function. please see attached image for an example, labels the drainage area name, divides the sq.ft area by 43560, rounds it, and labels the arcreage in the second line.

Message 20 of 22
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Hi YoungPE,

 

It the Mad3d I'm working in, I have since gotten into the expression builder, but in 2012 the enhanced label interface added a wizard that does do what I intuitivly expect it to do.

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

64 Bit Win10 OS

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