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bcsurvey
Posts: 289
Registered: ‎04-29-2008
Message 11 of 41 (688 Views)

Re: MapCheck Analysis - Legal Description Closure

12-03-2012 08:22 AM in reply to: peterfunkautodesk

HI Peter, thanks for the replies.  I think I have a grasp on the cogo editor functions now.  I was confused as to why there could only be a non-zero closure value when the pob was chosen to coincide with the point of closure, but I remembered that the traverse is based on the polyline (at least in this case).  So that's where the actual closure error data existed. 

 

As for the output reports, the cogo editor's is pretty, but doesn't contain the depth that the mapcheck's does (.lso, lsi, .trv).  But the mapcheck report data is simple text data, not the nice C3D report that you can get for just about everything else in C3D, including that for the cogo editor.

 

I think I"m good now.  If I have further issues, I'll get back to this thread.

 

Thank you!

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Jody007
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Registered: ‎02-28-2014
Message 12 of 41 (470 Views)

Re: MapCheck Analysis - Legal Description Closure

02-28-2014 02:16 PM in reply to: bcsurvey

 Mapcheck has been a simple method of checking closure and calculating areas since AutoCad bought out Soft Desk more than a decade ago. I'm sure the code is lying around AutoDesk and adding it the 2013 is doable.

 Please bring it back!!!!

 

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peterfunkautodesk
Posts: 720
Registered: ‎08-25-2009
Message 13 of 41 (462 Views)

Re: MapCheck Analysis - Legal Description Closure

02-28-2014 05:27 PM in reply to: Jody007

Mapcheck is in Civil 3D. You can do a parcel report that will include a mapcheck, there is a command that will mapcheck based on selected labels, there is a mapcheck report in the COGO Editor, there is mapcheck in the survey database. The Civil 3D 2014 help file list 67 topics related to mapcheck.

 

Cheers,

 

Peter Funk

Autodesk, Inc.



Peter Funk
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Jorge
Posts: 4
Registered: ‎02-28-2014
Message 14 of 41 (438 Views)

Re: MapCheck Analysis - Legal Description Closure

03-03-2014 06:03 AM in reply to: peterfunkautodesk

Peter, when you are checking a sketch of a legal description that has over 100 calls including curves it is very cumbersome to click on the text for every leg of the traverse. In the past you created a polyline and simply clicked on it once and there was your report. Why was that discontinued? It seems like surveyors are not your priority. I work for a State Government agency that has many licenses of your product but that may change as we heavily rely on the old Mapcheck command to do our QA/QC of legals that we write and those submitted to us by private surveyors. I have searched the help file regarding the Mapcheck command and everything leads back to this new way of doing it. The Cogoeditor does not give you an accurate closure as someone else reported here before. If it's operator error on my part I apologize but please let me know what I'm doing wrong. Thanks, Jorge

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Jeff_M
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Registered: ‎07-22-2003
Message 15 of 41 (435 Views)

Re: MapCheck Analysis - Legal Description Closure

03-03-2014 06:35 AM in reply to: Jorge

Jorge, you may be interested in THIS, which was written as a direct request from users with the same concerns as you've raised.

Jeff_M, also a frequent Swamper
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IanMcClain
Posts: 470
Registered: ‎09-29-2008
Message 16 of 41 (426 Views)

Re: MapCheck Analysis - Legal Description Closure

03-03-2014 07:17 AM in reply to: mikehathaway2942

Make parcel; thence Toolbox > Reports Manager > Parcel Map Check Report. From the end of your last course to the begining of your description is your closure. Done.

-Ian McClain
(running C3D 2012 sp4, Win7 64bit, 8GB)
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mikehathaway2942
Posts: 271
Registered: ‎10-13-2009
Message 17 of 41 (422 Views)

Re: MapCheck Analysis - Legal Description Closure

03-03-2014 07:23 AM in reply to: IanMcClain
I think you are missing the point. You cannot create a parcel that does not close. When cogo-ing up existing deeds and plats they will NEVER close unless its a perfect square or rectangle.

Jorge, we feel your pain.
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IanMcClain
Posts: 470
Registered: ‎09-29-2008
Message 18 of 41 (420 Views)

Re: MapCheck Analysis - Legal Description Closure

03-03-2014 07:26 AM in reply to: mikehathaway2942

Draw a line from your last course to the POB to create a parcel so you can use reports. This last segment is your (mis)closure.

-Ian McClain
(running C3D 2012 sp4, Win7 64bit, 8GB)
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mikehathaway2942
Posts: 271
Registered: ‎10-13-2009
Message 19 of 41 (418 Views)

Re: MapCheck Analysis - Legal Description Closure

03-03-2014 07:30 AM in reply to: IanMcClain
Actually its not. In the surveying world we are required to meet certain accuracy requirements such as 1:50000, 1:2000. Etc.... While your method will provide you with the overall brg and dist misclosure it will not supply us with the necessary accuracy data.
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IanMcClain
Posts: 470
Registered: ‎09-29-2008
Message 20 of 41 (411 Views)

Re: MapCheck Analysis - Legal Description Closure

03-03-2014 07:42 AM in reply to: mikehathaway2942

Understood. Take the misclosure length and divide by the overall perimeter length.

 

Clearly the options in C3D are not tailored to us surveyors. I wish they would bring back the wishlist.

-Ian McClain
(running C3D 2012 sp4, Win7 64bit, 8GB)
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