Live Maps Work Flow?

[Joe-Bouza]

I'm embarrased to ask but cant find it in help. What is the Work flow to get a map int civil3d?

[Murph_Map]

A liitle more info Joe, what "type" of map? The old road map you got down at the corner gas station or Bing/Google Map ? 

Mapiinsert if it's a raster type or FDO raster connection. 

[jggerth1]

Live Maps from Bing?  With 2014 or 2015 C3d, once you're set up on a coordinate system just run GEOMAP command, and rock on.

[Joe-Bouza]

right Murph!

Live maps from Bing

[Joe-Bouza]

So its GEOGRAPHICLOCATIOn >> GEOMAP

[Pointdump]

Joe,

I have the same question. I guess the first order of business is adding the Geolocation Tab to your ribbon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKSl-P4EPbY

Next step is getting the map into your drawing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKLX5tBGQZg

The getting-the-map-into-the-drawing part is where I'm utterly failing.

Dave

[Joe-Bouza]

Me too.

evidently this is the part of the question being missed. I'm at a point where I need someone to take a big fat crayon and spell it out for me

[Pointdump]

Joe,

"...I need someone to take a big fat crayon and spell it out for me."

You DO have a way with words!

Dave

[Murph_Map]

The command I use is GEOMAP. Now for it to work correctly for me I assign a coordinate system to the dwg, then have an object already in the dwg, I might import a shp file or points that are in the same Coord. system. Then use the GEOMAP command at the command line (forget about adding the tab unless you love those ribbons). I use the Hybrid option to bring it in. Then if I only want the roads use GEOMAP again and select the road option. You can (well I can in my system) swicth back between displaying the roads and aerials or the off by justusing the command again. One thing you need to make sure of is you have an account on A360 and that the A360 servers are up and not down for maintenance. 

With out a CS assigned it will reguire you to use the geolocation command which can be flakey and with out an object of some type already in the dwg it doesn't display at first or know what part of the map to zoom in on. I keep a small shp file close by just to import or data connect just for that. 

My crayon is broken but hope you still get it. 🙂

[Pointdump]

Murph,

I love my ribbon, so I added the GeoLocation Tab. I guess I loved it too much, because I now have TWO GeoLocation Tabs. I'll work on that later.

"...have an object already in the dwg..."

This seems to be a key. Good point.

Joe,

I've been bloodying my knuckles under the hood all morning and I've achieved a tentative success:

Those points are Static OPUS Solutions that I collected myself, and they seem to match the image fairly well.

Dave

[wfberry]

Joe:

Open up AutoDesk 360 first if things haven't being going good.

Open up a drawing that is set with your "wanted" coordinate system and zoomed near some lines (entities) that are located in the correct location.  

The "Geolocation" ribbon tab is normally installed and waiting.

Bill

[Jay_B]

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@Anonymous wrote:

The command I use is GEOMAP. Now for it to work correctly for me I assign a coordinate system to the dwg, then have an object already in the dwg, I might import a shp file or points that are in the same Coord. system.

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Thanks Murph, that's why it wasn't working for me yesterday on 2 sample projects where I knew for certain I had the correct coordinate systems assigned.

I 'd already successfully used WMS, ECW etc. on these projects but hadn't given the Bing Live Maps a try yet.

I was creating a new dwg, setting the coord system & expecting it to end up in correct location, then attaching an xref and noticed the they came in way out of bounds.

Prior to having dwg objects in the drawing which had the proper coords assigned the closest I could get the maps to come in was 26 miles in one county and 1 mile in the other county.

Using your hint the map comes in just like trained pigs.

[Joe-Bouza]

Great to see success! I'll revisit on Monday. In the meantime I'll have to soak these:

[Joe-Bouza]

Thanks for taking the time Murph: I'll check this out Monday. I'll assume the Bing aerial map I want should be open thus giving these steps:

1. locate aerial via Bing maps
2. assign coordinate system a la GEOLOCATION
3. insert a known geo referenced object i.e. shp file et al
4. invoke the GEOMAP command

will the aerial now come into Civil3d?

[Murph_Map]

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@Joe-Bouza wrote:

Thanks for taking the time Murph: I'll check this out Monday. I'll assume the Bing aerial map I want should be open thus giving these steps:

1. locate aerial via Bing maps
2. assign coordinate system a la GEOLOCATION
3. insert a known geo referenced object i.e. shp file et al
4. invoke the GEOMAP command

will the aerial now come into Civil3d?

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You can skip step 1, You do not need to open up the bing maps like we had to with Google Earth. You might want to sign in to AutoCAD 360 first, some users have reported issues trying to log in for the maps if they are not logged in first.

Also just assign a Cooridnate system in C3D with the dwg settings or ADESETCRDSYS command no need to use geolocation command, that's more for Vanilla AutoCad users. 

[Murph_Map]

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@Anonymous wrote:

Thanks Murph, that's why it wasn't working for me yesterday on 2 sample projects where I knew for certain I had the correct coordinate systems assigned.

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Using your hint the map comes in just like trained pigs.

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Glad it helped Jay, now if  Joe can get it to work. 

[Joe-Bouza]

See why I needed someone with a big fat crayon, now? Another step in the work flow gets eeked out with every squeeze

Thanks, I'll give it a go in the am

[Pointdump]

Joe,

To supplement Murph's excellent pointers, here's a pretty good YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NofPCzZpFe4

Dave

[Joe-Bouza]

Nothing.

360 on. check
geo refed shp file in. check
coord system assigned via c3d settings. check
Geolocation tab loaded. Not listed in partial CUI, not check (now why woud that be ?)
GEOMAP executed. comand does nothing

Note my signature. I'm not letting it get to me 🙂

[Pointdump]

Joe,

Are your attempts done in 2015?

Dave