Label Styles and Description key parameters

[allywhite666]

I have been attempting to get my trees looking like this

So from my reading I set my des. key up like this

However this produces one single line of text with the description "span 0 dia. 0.0 Ht. 0" I want them on 3 separate lines, like the above picture.

So I set up a label style

With this component

So does anyone know how I get the  parameters $1 $2 $3 to go in the correct label component?

[rl_jackson]

Your Code from the field collected data would look like this

T 6 2 4

With 2 being your diameter, 4 being the height and 6 being you span/drip line.

Check out the help on description keys it will help.

Note: The code #'s must be separated by spaces.

[Pointdump]

I don't think you can do what you want to do through description keys. I might be wrong, and it certainly is an interesting challenge. You can do this with User Defined Properties, but it will involve either manually entering in the information point by point, or using the Survey Database.

Dave

[MikeEvansUK · Accepted solution]

Look on AU for CV201-5 "Everything You Ever Wanted to Know About Points, But Were Afraid to Ask".

This is a very good document for description keys. The only easy way I know of is to target the Full description and change the maximum width in the labels style otherwise you will need to enter a user defigned property classification.

I would go with the Maximum width and add some spaces between the $# in the description format until you get the desired look.

[Pointdump]

Mike,

That sounds interesting, but I can't find it. Can you post a link?

Dave

[MikeEvansUK]

What a shame, it appears anything prior to 2011 has been Archived or removed. What a wealth of knowledge removed.

Maybe Matt Kolberg can help as he chaired the event.

[mathewkol]

Thanks for the accolades Mike. I will try to find my document and post it here. I'm enroute so it won't happen until sometime tomorrow.

[Pointdump]

Matt, if you can dig that up, it will be greatly appreciated.

Nosing around, I found Tom Pisani's Webinar, C13081: Pointing out AutoCAD Civil 3D Points. Good, solid information, and in about 36 minutes is a neat idea I didn't know about. Notes--you can tie them to things like points and alignments, and add supplemental information. Might have some application here.

Dave

[mathewkol]

Here is the document Mike was speaking of.

[Pointdump]

Excellent! Thanks, Matt!

Coffee is on and I'm going to read.

Dave

[allywhite666]

Thanks to everyone who tried to help but after reading all the information given and spending hours browsing through web pages, I cannot find an answer.

Using the description keys you only get one line of input, I could not find a wild card to indicate to start a new line or any option where different parameters could be put on separate lines leaving the input to be ridiculously long and unusable in a drawing (in which case all trees would have to be hand edited).

Either the answer to this problem is well hidden or there is no answer to the problem and it can't be done. Either way this is yet another failure that I have found with Civil 3D.

[sboon]

Is this what you're looking for?

After reading Mike Evan's post I experimented with the Maximum width setting in the point label style and adding extra spaces between the components of the Description Format to force the line breaks where I wanted them.  As long as the field descriptions have a consistent number of characters for each component it seems like it should work.

Steve
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[allywhite666]

Yes the picture in the background is exactly what i want. So make the maximum width smaller? Why cant there be a simple way to do this?

[sboon]

With a little more work I was able to produce this.

[allywhite666]

So what exactly did you do to get it?

[sboon]

I started by playing with the maximum width until I found setting that forced a line break at the longest line I wanted to maintain.  In this case 0.8" seems to work for the first row in all of the sample data I've been using.  Then I edited the Description Format, adding spaces between the second and third components until it forced the second line break.

BTW - in Civil3d almost nothing is easy to do the first time, but once you figure it out and get the settings right you'll never have to worry about it again.

Steve
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[allywhite666]

Yes this is what I have been trying to do. My units are in mm.

0.300 gives me this.

So then I went to des. key and added spaces but....

Frustrating.

[sboon]

Post your drawing, or a point file.

[allywhite666]

Ok I got it finally.

Looking at yours 0.8" I tried 20.32mm, this didn't work 30mm gave me -

span 0 dia .0

Ht. 0

.......and 15mm fixed it.

Thank you so much Steve I was pulling out my hair with this.

You are a hero!

<3<3<3<3

[sboon]

Metric version of my sample file.

Steve
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PS - I don't normally do this, but I switched the solution from my post to Mike's.  He had the correct answer, I just helped you to figure out how to implement it.