Hi,
To all experienced and knowledgeable CAiCE users,
I don't believe CAiCE and Civil 3D will just "merge" - think of the
mentioned "different mind set".
I believe that your hands-on knowledge and the real-life experience with the
software is probably one of the great assets of this newsgroup and beyond.
I believe that realistically, users of CAiCE are moving to a family of
software users that cover and integrate accross a wider area of the AEC
industry.
There is an opportunity to become an active part of the total project data
exchange pool where Civil Engineers collaborate with Land Planners,
Architects, Environmental Engineers, Maintenance Engineers etc. This
integration has a potential to be at a much higher level than just
delivering drawing (files) to the construction crew. The Civil Engineering
becomes integral part of the whole project and elevates from the sort of
"contracting" role where it receives the boundary conditions, defines the
civil objects and delivers the results in the form of construction drawings
that are kept in the "vault" until it's time for a modification or
construction.
Knowing that the herein mentioned transaction has occured and is now part of
the corporate history, could it be that we can recognise the mutual benefit
of compiling a list of top level and most desired functionality features of
CAiCE?
Perahps we can even go a step further and through the public appraisal of
those features through this newsgroup we can greatly increase the chances
for some of those features to make it to one of the early releases of Civi
3D. Wouldn't that be good for both existing CAiCE and new (and we all are
new) Civil 3D users?
Just a thought...
Cheers
Rad Lazic
"Steve Cannon" wrote in message
news:407ef659$1_3@newsprd01...
> Hi Keith,
>
> If that IS true, and it IS true that future C3D in no way resembles CAiCE,
> it sure seems like CAiCE was bought out with the sole intention of killing
> the future competition. I would expect to see some future anti-trust
> inquiries into the buy-out transaction. I guess the same could have been
> said of the AutoDesk buy-out of SoftDesk - the S8 Arch stuff wasn't around
> to compete with ADT. Maybe it was really for legal reasons that the S8
> Civil/Survey stuff morphed into LDD, instead of an AutoDesk C3D at the
same
> time as ADT. Then the buy-out of REVIT and now the whole REVIT / ADT
> confusion. Probably won't know the truth about for CAiCE for years to
come,
> at which time it will be too late to do anything... Sure gives the
> appearance of monopolistic maneuvers however.
>
> sc
>
>
> "Keith Biggs" wrote in message
> news:407ee632$1_3@newsprd01...
> > It's true, from what I have been told. I attended a local users group
for
> > CAiCE where there were Autodesk staff in attendance. We were informed
that
> > Civil 3D is to replace CAiCE and LDD, but not for about 2 years. For
now,
> > they will continue to offer upgrades to both products. Whether users
> switch
> > from CAiCE to Civil 3D will be dependant upon Civil 3D's capabilities
> > (Autodesk opinion)
> >
> > I have been using CAiCE for preliminary road design, with great success.
> > From what I have seen about Civil 3D using the beta version, the concept
> is
> > good, but it requires a different mind set.
> >
>
>