AutoCAD Civil 3D General Discussion

AutoCAD Civil 3D General Discussion

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*Lewis, Dave
Message 1 of 27 (83 Views)

Is Civil 3D v1.0 ready for production?

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10-15-2003 02:53 AM
Is it ready for regular LDD users to start using or is more of a preview?
Should you wait for 2.0? What's the opinion so far?
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Caddtech
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Message 2 of 27 (83 Views)

Re: Is Civil 3D v1.0 ready for production?

10-15-2003 02:55 AM in reply to: *Lewis, Dave
Autodesk states to use in NON_PRODUCTION Projects....

Just here for evaluation

Roger
*Lewis, Dave
Message 3 of 27 (83 Views)

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10-15-2003 03:57 AM in reply to: *Lewis, Dave
hehe then it should be free :smileytongue: We are still at LDD3. There is no way then I
can convince the company to pay for an upgrade to 2004 and civil 3d 1.0.
Oh well when is 2.0 slated for release?

Caddtech
|>Autodesk states to use in NON_PRODUCTION Projects....

Just here for evaluation

Roger

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Message 4 of 27 (83 Views)

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10-15-2003 04:34 AM in reply to: *Lewis, Dave
I have no Idea...

It will be a great piece of software when its finished

i have ld04 but not in production we have been to busy
but i have it loaded and played with it so civil3d is working here

u can only get civil 3d right now via subscription or a new purchase of Civil or Civil Series

Roger
*Rizzo, Jon
Message 5 of 27 (83 Views)

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10-15-2003 08:57 PM in reply to: *Lewis, Dave
It IS free. If you own the Civil Series or Civil Design & are on
subscription, you will receive it. Otherwise, it is not available at all.

Jon


"Dave Lewis" wrote in message
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> hehe then it should be free :smileytongue: We are still at LDD3. There is no way
then I
> can convince the company to pay for an upgrade to 2004 and civil 3d 1.0.
> Oh well when is 2.0 slated for release?
>
> Caddtech
> |>Autodesk states to use in NON_PRODUCTION Projects....

Just here for
evaluation

Roger
>

*Lewis, Dave
Message 6 of 27 (83 Views)

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10-16-2003 01:38 AM in reply to: *Lewis, Dave
We are on LDD3 (non subscription) I need to make a recommendation
to stay pat or upgrade. So far its do nothing.

"Jon Rizzo"
|>It IS free. If you own the Civil Series or Civil Design & are on
|>subscription, you will receive it. Otherwise, it is not available at all.
*Cannon, Steve
Message 7 of 27 (83 Views)

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10-16-2003 02:28 AM in reply to: *Lewis, Dave
Dave,

I seem to have the same status as you - LDTr3 w/o subscription. So currently
CD3 is not available to me. My current rationale is as follows: 1) I can see
no return on investment in upgrading to LDTr2004 - nothing there to motivate
me as to better tools or a decrease in turn-around time. 2) Autodesk is
calling this first release a PREVIEW Edition - not intended for production,
so nothing immediately in CD3 to provide an ROI incentive. As I read this
NG, it seems that CD3 is intended as a mere public beta. I can not justify
in my mind - paying Autodesk to beta test - which is what upgrading to LDTr4
and buying a subscription would entail. 3) Some CLEAR intention from
Autodesk on how they intend to ultimately market this would help my decision
making - a) At some time will CD3 be able to bought without a subscription?
b) From a marketing stand point how will it separate from LDD? c) Can we be
sure that the PREVIEW edition is just nothing more than that ? - maybe when
the production CD3 is released, all the PREVIEW users (testers) may have to
purchase the Real McCoy??? In business, I find betting on future vaporware
does not usually work, which is why I never liked the subscription program.
It is probably economically wise to wait an evaluate a product before
putting money into it. If one evaluates the buying decision as a business
strategy, NOW does not seem to be the time to invest.

That said and done, I would love to get my hands on CD3 and test drive it.
And maybe, if reading this NG showed CD3 was at a higher level of
completeness, I may have splurged for a play toy. But seeing the threads on
the in-completeness of the grading objects, the lack of roadway design, and
the frequent crashes; my economic conservatism seems to over-shadow the kid
that wants a play toy. I will continue to monitor the NG, watching how fast
we see significant patches and added functionality.

sc



Dave Lewis wrote in message
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> We are on LDD3 (non subscription) I need to make a recommendation
> to stay pat or upgrade. So far its do nothing.
>
> "Jon Rizzo"
> |>It IS free. If you own the Civil Series or Civil Design & are on
> |>subscription, you will receive it. Otherwise, it is not available at
all.
>
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Caddtech
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Message 8 of 27 (83 Views)

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10-16-2003 02:45 AM in reply to: *Lewis, Dave
The way i see it is that subscription is an answer to my headache.. i don't have to worry about upgrading or not when it comes out it is here.. and although we are a very small firm we are gladly to pay the subscription cost so we can be up to date whether adesk only changes one thing.. and yes C3D is in evaluation and it also has some bugs but when its finished it will be a great tool for the users and i am fine with waiting just a little longer for them to get it right anw when it is ready or if they come back out with preview addition 2.0 or whatever i will get it and not have to worry about it... so many ppl are always whining about what the software can't do and never look at what it can do and now they come out with something thats gonna do what we want and we whine because it has a few bugs that they are taking an incentive of passing out to us to evaluate to work the bugs out.. sheesh

sorry for the rant

Roger
*Cannon, Steve
Message 9 of 27 (83 Views)

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10-16-2003 03:23 AM in reply to: *Lewis, Dave
Roger,

1) I am not ranting, I am spelling out my business decision process for Dave
since we are in the same place.

2) I am not complaining, I think that the release of the preview edition was
a good strategy for Autodesk. It just does not happen to fit my situation.

3) I too think that CD3 is on track to be a useful tool. But that does not
mean everyone needs to run with it at this time. Timing - when to adapt it
(and ultimately how to convert) - is going to be one of the most critical
decisions for most firms. (The other critical decision is going to be the
evaluation of the capabilities of the staff and their adaptability to the
product )

3) Does the subscription cost that your firm pays to Autodesk come out of
your personal pocketbook in any way shape or fashion? If not, of course you
are not going to be as impacted by the cost of things. I know that this
being a technical NG, only a few contributors pay for the product directly
from their wallet. Heck, if my boss paid for it, I too want to have the
latest and greatest. (But she refuses to pay for my play toys).

sc

Caddtech wrote in message
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> The way i see it is that subscription is an answer to my headache.. i
don't have to worry about upgrading or not when it comes out it is here..
and although we are a very small firm we are gladly to pay the subscription
cost so we can be up to date whether adesk only changes one thing.. and yes
C3D is in evaluation and it also has some bugs but when its finished it will
be a great tool for the users and i am fine with waiting just a little
longer for them to get it right anw when it is ready or if they come back
out with preview addition 2.0 or whatever i will get it and not have to
worry about it... so many ppl are always whining about what the software
can't do and never look at what it can do and now they come out with
something thats gonna do what we want and we whine because it has a few bugs
that they are taking an incentive of passing out to us to evaluate to work
the bugs out.. sheesh
> sorry for the rant
>
> Roger
>
>
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Caddtech
Posts: 33
Registered: ‎12-12-2003
Message 10 of 27 (83 Views)

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10-16-2003 03:35 AM in reply to: *Lewis, Dave
Honestly no it does not come out of my pocket.

but my boss knows the benefits to having it and it is
his choice with no influence of mine to buy it...

he wants the latest software when it comes out
whether we choose to put it on our machines is
another story... i have had ldt2004 since it released
and i have it so i can evaluate it and when C3D came out it was good to get it but neither are in production.

ldt2004 we haven't had the time to change
and you know why for C3D but i am saying no matter
whose pocket it is coming out of its well worth the cost
and if i had to pay it i would...

just my opinion....
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