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intersections not lining up

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Message 1 of 41
arobberson
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intersections not lining up

can someone please help me with this situation

Allen G Robberson
arobberson@meai.com
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Message 2 of 41
wfberry
in reply to: arobberson

You need to look at the two assemblies you are using.  The first one (the tangent portion) shows about 2 feet (something) wider than the ones in the curve.

( your approaching pavement from below is wider than the pavement in the intersection.)

 

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Message 3 of 41
arobberson
in reply to: wfberry

the one road is 12 ft wide and the other road is 13' wide 

Allen G Robberson
arobberson@meai.com
Message 4 of 41
wfberry
in reply to: arobberson

Perhaps this is the reason that they do not match.

 

Bill

 

Message 5 of 41
arobberson
in reply to: wfberry

is there a way to have 2 road with different widths create into an intersection

Allen G Robberson
arobberson@meai.com
Message 6 of 41
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: arobberson

I don't think thats your problem. Am I seeing two curb and gutters of different width?

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Message 7 of 41
arobberson
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

all the asslebly id a pave with a shoulder 12 pave with 3ft shoulder and 13' pave with 3ft shoulder

Allen G Robberson
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Message 8 of 41
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: arobberson

The feature lines any alignments don't really show that though.

Is it possible the attachment point of your curb return assembly is on the wroong side?

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Message 9 of 41
Neilw_05
in reply to: arobberson

Did you use the wizard to apply the curb return assemblies? If so the wizard may have applied the wrong assemblies. You can check to see what assemblies are applied to the curb return baselines in the corridor properties.

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
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Message 10 of 41
Neilw_05
in reply to: arobberson

The curb returns are matching the edge of the 2 roads so the widths of the roads can be whatever you want.

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
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Message 11 of 41
fcernst
in reply to: arobberson

The problem is your approaching road EOP and EOP Offset Alignments are different widths.

 

You need to decide if you want your approaching road EOP to be as wide as those EOP Offset Alignments, or if you want those EOP Offset Alignments to be as wide as the current EOP of that road.



Fred Ernst, PE
C3D 2024
Ernst Engineering
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Message 12 of 41
Neilw_05
in reply to: fcernst

What I see whenj looking at the graphic is the EOP's (the white lines) do line up. The problem I see is the offset blue line on the curb return assembly needs to transition from the main road to the side road.

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
WIN 10 64 PRO

http://www.sec-landmgt.com
Message 13 of 41
fcernst
in reply to: Neilw_05

Those Whilte lines are the Offset Alignments.



Fred Ernst, PE
C3D 2024
Ernst Engineering
www.ernstengineering.com
Message 14 of 41
Neilw_05
in reply to: fcernst

The way I see it, the offset alignments (white lines) are the edge of travelway and the curb return baselines.. An assembly has been applied to the curb return baselines which is generating the blue offset lines. So that link needs to transition in width.

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
WIN 10 64 PRO

http://www.sec-landmgt.com
Message 15 of 41
fcernst
in reply to: arobberson

Allen,

 

If you want to send me the drawing I can fix it real quick and just pop it back to you.



Fred Ernst, PE
C3D 2024
Ernst Engineering
www.ernstengineering.com
Message 16 of 41
fcernst
in reply to: Neilw_05

No...the curb alignment is lining up with secondary road offset (White), like it should.



Fred Ernst, PE
C3D 2024
Ernst Engineering
www.ernstengineering.com
Message 17 of 41
Neilw_05
in reply to: fcernst

Right, but the curb return assembly has a link to a shoulder or something (the blue line). That is what needs to vary.

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
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Message 18 of 41
arobberson
in reply to: Neilw_05

BUT I USED THE WIZARD TO CREATE THE INTERSECTION AND WHEN I AM DONE THE E/P LINES DO NOT LINE UP

Allen G Robberson
arobberson@meai.com
Message 19 of 41
arobberson
in reply to: fcernst

WHAT EMAIL ADDRESS

Allen G Robberson
arobberson@meai.com
Message 20 of 41
Neilw_05
in reply to: arobberson

I'm sure the problem is you need to transition part of your curb return assembly. The wizard won't handle that by default. It's a bit too involved for me to give detailed instructions on what you need to do in the forum, but basically you'll need to create a target for blue line on the curb return assembly to follow so that it transitions from matching the main road to the side road.

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
WIN 10 64 PRO

http://www.sec-landmgt.com

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