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INSERT DRAWING OR XREF DRAWING COMING IN AT WRONG COORDINATES

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Message 1 of 11
dgordon
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INSERT DRAWING OR XREF DRAWING COMING IN AT WRONG COORDINATES

Has anyone had this happen with release 2008 c3d or 2010 c3d?

 

We have a drawing in which two xref's were inserted at 0 but one of them when the properties are listed says it's at 25.45, 13.65,.0

 

I can remember this happening when we first installed either 2008 or 2010.   Then we either installed a update or a new release and haven't seen it happen in a long time.  

 

please let me know if this sounds familiar.

 

Dan

Civil 3D 2013
Win 7 Pro x64
Intel Xeon 2.0GHz
12Gb Ram
ATI Firepro 4800
Dell T5500
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Message 2 of 11
wfberry
in reply to: dgordon

It sounds familiar but has nothing to do with any version.  Someone moved the xref, probably, when they were moving something else.  It is very easy to do.

 

Bill

 

BTW, just move it back.

Message 3 of 11
dgordon
in reply to: wfberry

It might have been moved, that does seem like the easy answer.   but the amount it moved is what has me concerned.  It doesn't sound like you've encountered this specific problem.   Hopefully someone else has.

 

 

Dan

Civil 3D 2013
Win 7 Pro x64
Intel Xeon 2.0GHz
12Gb Ram
ATI Firepro 4800
Dell T5500
www.preinnewhof.com
Message 4 of 11
wfberry
in reply to: dgordon

All it means is that someone moved "something" 25.42 units to the right and 13.65 units up.  This is very easy to do if you are zoomed in and move text or an object and inadvertently selected the xref and moved it along with the object(s).

 

Yes, I can say I have done it more than I care to relate. 

 

Bill

 

Message 5 of 11
mathewkol
in reply to: dgordon

Try it again with the same file. If it's off by the same exact amount again then there are probably 2 options.
1. Your UCS is not world.
2. Your BASE variable in either drawing is not 0,0,0.
Matt Kolberg
SolidCAD Professional Services
http://www.solidcad.ca /
Message 6 of 11
dgordon
in reply to: mathewkol

Mathewk,

 

thanks for the reply..   The usc's are both world and the base variable in both drawings is 0,0,0.

 

I did try it again and it inserts correctly because i'm using 2011 c3d.   This error occured due to a bug in either 2008 or 2010 c3d with update 1 installed.  

 

 

Dan

Civil 3D 2013
Win 7 Pro x64
Intel Xeon 2.0GHz
12Gb Ram
ATI Firepro 4800
Dell T5500
www.preinnewhof.com
Message 7 of 11
AllenJessup
in reply to: dgordon

Check the system variables Insunits, Insunitsdefsource and Insunitsdeftarget. When attaching the Xref watch the the Block Unit area in the lower right of the attach or insert dialog box. Make sure the Unit and Factor make sense. It sounds like there may be some type of scaling involved.

 

Allen

Allen Jessup
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Message 8 of 11
cwitzel
in reply to: AllenJessup

I have seen this unit if INSBASE is set to something other than 0,0 in one of the xrefs.

 

Thanks,

Conan Witzel

Thanks,
Conan Witzel
Civil 3d 2021 SP1.1
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Message 9 of 11
mathewkol
in reply to: dgordon

I've never geard of such a bug. Try to replicate it using the other version so we can help. If you're not using that any more then I guess you solved your problem 🙂
Matt Kolberg
SolidCAD Professional Services
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Message 10 of 11
Nizar.Sayegh
in reply to: dgordon

Did you check the units in both drawings? It should be the same

Message 11 of 11
johncollins6287
in reply to: cwitzel

This was my problem. Surveyor had INSBASE set to 5000,5000,0.

Thanks!

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