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Ineffective Breakline

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Umit.Arslan
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Ineffective Breakline

Hi everyone

 

     Story is ;

 - I have created a surface from 3d faces with "maintain edges from objects" option marked and made lots of editing and at the end created a data shortcut for that surface.

 - I opened a new clear dwg file and promoted that surface into my drawing and first i tried to add a line which did not effect the surface, except start and end points of the line.Then i tried to add this line as a breakline into my surface and the result was the same.

 - I am wondering if we create a surface with 3d faces or breaklines with "maintain edges from objects" option marked then we can not add anymore breaklines or lines passing these predefined edges?

 

Thanks 

Umit

 

- Umit Arslan -
Survey Engineer
Civil 3D 2018 x64
Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
32GB RAM
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Message 2 of 12
doni49
in reply to: Umit.Arslan

Each edge of the 3dface is being treated as a breakline.  C3D doesn't like when one breakline crosses another one.

 

Try moving the breaklines to the TOP of your surface definition.  This may or may not do what you're looking for.

 

SurfaceProperties.png

 

SurfaceDefinition.png



Don Ireland
Engineering Design Technician




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Message 3 of 12
Umit.Arslan
in reply to: doni49

    Thanks for your reply Don.But I can not see the 3D faces added in the definition tab.Because i have created this surface and used 3D faces, finished the adjustment of the surface, made a data shortcut, in another drawing.After that i promoted this surface to the recent drawng.

   I think there is a secret database for every surface which is recording every move for that surface and which can not be deleted in any case.Also we can not see these records in the defination tab.

 

Thanks

Umit

- Umit Arslan -
Survey Engineer
Civil 3D 2018 x64
Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
32GB RAM
Message 4 of 12
doni49
in reply to: Umit.Arslan

Try creating a NEW surface. Add your break lines to it THEN paste in your 3dfaces surface.

It may get you what you're looking for. Otherwise, all I can tell you is what I've already said: C3D doesn't like crossing break lines.


Don Ireland
Engineering Design Technician




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Message 5 of 12
Umit.Arslan
in reply to: doni49

2014-06-04 14-45-47 Ekran görüntüsü.png

 

Thanks Don. I have found the solution of my problem.

- Umit Arslan -
Survey Engineer
Civil 3D 2018 x64
Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
32GB RAM
Message 6 of 12
doni49
in reply to: Umit.Arslan

For the benefit of others who may be dealing with a similar issue, would you mind sharing your solution?


Don Ireland
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Message 7 of 12
Umit.Arslan
in reply to: doni49

The solution is shown in the picture in  my previous post.

- Umit Arslan -
Survey Engineer
Civil 3D 2018 x64
Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
32GB RAM
Message 8 of 12
doni49
in reply to: Umit.Arslan


@Umit.Arslan wrote:

The solution is shown in the picture in  my previous post.


Sorry.  Because I've subscribed to the thread, the system sent an email containing your post.  But the message didn't include any sign that there was an image attached.  All I saw was a statement from you that you had found the solution.



Don Ireland
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Message 9 of 12
doni49
in reply to: Umit.Arslan

BTW -- earlier you commented that you didn't see in the surface definition where the 3dfaces were added.  When you promoted your surface, you created a snapshot.  That snapshot is a picture of what the surface looked like at that time -- breaklines and all.



Don Ireland
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Message 10 of 12
Umit.Arslan
in reply to: doni49

So is it possible to obtain this edited surface without any snapshot and without any history after all these corrections and adjustments? I mean like a reborn surface or like to make the surface to forget everything had before... 🙂

- Umit Arslan -
Survey Engineer
Civil 3D 2018 x64
Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
32GB RAM
Message 11 of 12
doni49
in reply to: Umit.Arslan

If you're asking if you can get it to show all the individual edits that it showed orginally (before being referenced and promoted), then no I don't think so.  When you promoted the surface, it created a Snapshot of the surface.  When you create a snapshot, you tell C3D to take the surface as it stands -- breaklines, points etc that were active at snapshot time are included in the surface and they're included in the same order as they were in the original surface's definition tab.



Don Ireland
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Message 12 of 12
doni49
in reply to: Umit.Arslan

After I posted my last reply, I thought of one possibility.  If your goal is to get the surface from one drawing to another WITHOUT it being a Snapshot, then try copying the surface to your clipboard (select the contours or triangles and press Ctrl+C).  Then past it into the new dwg (press Ctrl+V).

 

You'd need to include any points & featurelines that are included in the surface definition.



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