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Indicating HGL in Civil 3D pipe profile

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Anonymous
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Indicating HGL in Civil 3D pipe profile

We'd like to be able to design storm sewer using StormCAD, export the data
to LandXML, and then import it into Civil 3D. In Civil 3D, it would be easy
to create a profile that can be massaged, via styles, to look the way our
agencies dictate. The only problem is, as far as I know, there is no method
of showing HGL in Civil 3D profiles. How is everyone else getting around
this?

Alternately, there doesn't appear to be a method to get data from StormCAD
into Land Desktop, as Land Desktop's LandXML support does not include pipe
runs.

--
Ralph Sanchez
www.texupport.net
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Message 2 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

If you can get a table in StormCAD for Station/Elevation of HGL, then you
should be able to push it to a text file and create profile from text.

Alternately, you could just enter in a layout profile by hand using the
Station/Elevation transparent commands and it wuold be pretty quick.

Just two options.

--
James Wedding, P.E.
Engineered Efficiency Inc.
www.eng-eff.com
www.civil3d.com
C3D/Vista/2GB
Message 3 of 12
pcr1955
in reply to: Anonymous

We simply create the profile that includes the HGL using StormCad and then export the profile out as a dxf file. Then you just import the dxf file into the Civil3D drawing.
Its really very simple and works well.

Chris Reaves
The Reaves Firm, Inc.
Message 4 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

The problem with dxf profiles from stormcad is that they're very
stick-figure, and, to the best of my knowledge, not very easy to massage
into the graphic standards for the agencies that we submit to.

--
Ralph Sanchez
www.texupport.net


wrote in message news:5707336@discussion.autodesk.com...
We simply create the profile that includes the HGL using StormCad and then
export the profile out as a dxf file. Then you just import the dxf file
into the Civil3D drawing.
Its really very simple and works well.

Chris Reaves
The Reaves Firm, Inc.
Message 5 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Thanks, James. I'll try the text file method. It sounds like it might
work.

--
Ralph Sanchez
www.texupport.net


wrote in message news:5707298@discussion.autodesk.com...
If you can get a table in StormCAD for Station/Elevation of HGL, then you
should be able to push it to a text file and create profile from text.

Alternately, you could just enter in a layout profile by hand using the
Station/Elevation transparent commands and it wuold be pretty quick.

Just two options.

--
James Wedding, P.E.
Engineered Efficiency Inc.
www.eng-eff.com
www.civil3d.com
C3D/Vista/2GB
Message 6 of 12
pcr1955
in reply to: Anonymous

I am not sure what version of StormCad you are using but the profilles that we create (using stand-alone version 5.6) are at least as high in quatility as those created using Civil3D (see attached file). They requre no massaging at all. Perhaps you have some settings that need to be adusted in StormCad.

Chris Reaves, P.E.
The Reaves Firm, Inc.
Message 7 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

We export the hgl as a dxf from HydraFlow Storm Sewers. Does StormCad
provide that option?

"ralph sanchez" wrote in message
news:5707295@discussion.autodesk.com...
We'd like to be able to design storm sewer using StormCAD, export the data
to LandXML, and then import it into Civil 3D. In Civil 3D, it would be easy
to create a profile that can be massaged, via styles, to look the way our
agencies dictate. The only problem is, as far as I know, there is no method
of showing HGL in Civil 3D profiles. How is everyone else getting around
this?

Alternately, there doesn't appear to be a method to get data from StormCAD
into Land Desktop, as Land Desktop's LandXML support does not include pipe
runs.

--
Ralph Sanchez
www.texupport.net
Message 8 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Exporting from StormCAD to a space delimited text file, and then importing
that into C3D did the trick. Thanks for your help, James.

--
Ralph Sanchez
www.texupport.net


wrote in message news:5707298@discussion.autodesk.com...
If you can get a table in StormCAD for Station/Elevation of HGL, then you
should be able to push it to a text file and create profile from text.

Alternately, you could just enter in a layout profile by hand using the
Station/Elevation transparent commands and it wuold be pretty quick.

Just two options.

--
James Wedding, P.E.
Engineered Efficiency Inc.
www.eng-eff.com
www.civil3d.com
C3D/Vista/2GB
Message 9 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

StormCAD can read the Land Desktop pipeworks database directly. Pipes can
be "drafted" in LDT, the db opened in StormCAD, run through an event, and
the pipes re-drawn in LDT - showing the HGL.

StormCAD V8 XM Edition runs on C3D 2008 - it simply adds the StormCAD menu
so your workflow doesn't really change. Pipes can be "drafted" in C3D,
exported via LandXML (you will have to do some cleanup as C3D's export to
LandXML doesn't accomodate for any outlet structures - any event you run in
StormCAD will appear to be caught in a loop because nothing will appear to
drain - I have less hair because of this). StormCAD work can then be
exported back to C3D via LandXML, the existing network will be updated -
again, you'll have cleanup.

The kicker is, you don't necessarily "need" to export your Haestad work via
LandXML to C3D. StormCAD can draw 'decent' looking pipe runs (in plan and
profile). Granted, the work won't be C3D dynamic, but depending upon your
scenario, it may not need to be...
--

sm

Scott McEachron
DCCADD Dallas - Fort Worth
http://c3dpavingtheway.blogspot.com/


"ralph sanchez" wrote in message
news:5707295@discussion.autodesk.com...
We'd like to be able to design storm sewer using StormCAD, export the data
to LandXML, and then import it into Civil 3D. In Civil 3D, it would be easy
to create a profile that can be massaged, via styles, to look the way our
agencies dictate. The only problem is, as far as I know, there is no method
of showing HGL in Civil 3D profiles. How is everyone else getting around
this?

Alternately, there doesn't appear to be a method to get data from StormCAD
into Land Desktop, as Land Desktop's LandXML support does not include pipe
runs.

--
Ralph Sanchez
www.texupport.net
Message 10 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Scott,

In StormCAD 5.6 we were able to import Land Desktop/Civil Design/Pipeworks
pipe runs just as you state below, by importing the Land Desktop DB. (This
was under FILE / IMPORT / LAND DEVELOPMENT DESKTOP.)

In StormCAD 8, however, there doesn't appear to be a direct method to import
pipeworks databases anymore. Do you happen to know if this was just taken
out in favor of LandXML, or am I just missing something?

--
Ralph Sanchez
www.texupport.net


"Scott McEachron" wrote in message
news:5712347@discussion.autodesk.com...
StormCAD can read the Land Desktop pipeworks database directly. Pipes can
be "drafted" in LDT, the db opened in StormCAD, run through an event, and
the pipes re-drawn in LDT - showing the HGL.
Message 11 of 12
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Did you ever figure this out? I'm also unable to import the Land Desktop DB to StormCAD V8.
Message 12 of 12
dpresley58
in reply to: Anonymous


@Anonymous wrote:
Exporting from StormCAD to a space delimited text file, and then importing
that into C3D did the trick. Thanks for your help, James.



Ralph,

How were you able to do this?

 

Thanks,

David

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