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General Note Background mask

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Message 1 of 24
AllenJessup
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General Note Background mask

Is it a know issue that when you have a General Note style with a Dragged State where the Display is set to Stacked Text. If Background Mask is set to True. The Mask does not encompass the whole text.

 

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Or have I missed something?

 

Allen Jessup


Civil 3D 2012 SP 2.1
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Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

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Message 2 of 24
Jay_B
in reply to: AllenJessup

I just tried a general note over two basic lines and it seems to work as expected.

2012 sp 2.1 used.

note.JPG

 

C3D 2018.1
C3D 2016 SP4

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Message 3 of 24
AllenJessup
in reply to: Jay_B

Interesting. There must be something wrong with my style.

 

note.PNG

 

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Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 4 of 24
Jeff_M
in reply to: AllenJessup

Change your maximum text width in the Dragged state to either 0 or wider than the text

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Message 5 of 24
Jay_B
in reply to: AllenJessup

FWIW, Mine is set to zero. Learned something new.

C3D 2018.1
C3D 2016 SP4

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Message 6 of 24
AllenJessup
in reply to: Jeff_M

Thanks Jeff. That was the culprit. I hadn't realized that that would effect the mask also. But it makes sense. Just have to edit a few pieces of text to make them stack the way I want. But little trouble compared to the masking problem. I had to use a couple of wiperouts to get the plots out this afternoon. But now I'll erase them and fix up the notes.

 

Do you use notes for a lot of labeling? We haven't up until now. But I'm getting tired of the Annotative vs Civil troubles. I can deal with it. But I'm not getting it across to others why some thing do this and other do that. So if we can stick to one method it would be simpler. Unfortunately Notes are still a bit Kludgy.

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 7 of 24
AllenJessup
in reply to: Jay_B


@Anonymous wrote:

Learned something new.


That's why we're here! Smiley Happy

Allen Jessup



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 8 of 24
Jeff_M
in reply to: AllenJessup

I don't use the General Notes as much as I'd like to. Multileaders seem to do an overall better job at this time, for me anyway. ALthough I do have many notes, that must be on every sheet, for which I've created a style so I can quickly add them.

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Message 9 of 24
neilyj666
in reply to: Jeff_M

I tend to use Multi leaders (rightly or wrongly) over Civil Labels as they are much easier to edit etc although Civil Labels do have their uses in the right place e.g. profile views

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Message 10 of 24
dgordon
in reply to: AllenJessup

Allen,

 

I use Civil 3D notes as much as possible due to the way the wipeout ajusts itself to stay wrapped around the text.

 

although if i need to copy multiple notes to multiple sheets then mtext works  more efficiently.

 

Dan

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Message 11 of 24
AllenJessup
in reply to: dgordon

Thanks for letting me know. I'll see how they work out for us.

 

Allen Jessup



Allen Jessup
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Message 12 of 24
AllenJessup
in reply to: AllenJessup

I just read this post on copying notes:

Copy General Note Labels between drawings

 

I haven't tried it yet. But it looks interesting.

The part about renaming the style before copying that is.

 

Allen Jessup



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 13 of 24
dgordon
in reply to: AllenJessup

Allen,

 

The issue is the text overrides to not move from drawing to drawing.   they always take on the text from the style when moved they lose the text override.    I looked at the post link you offered and I don't see anything to help with say 5 note lables that you want to copy to 20 additional sheets.   the best that is doable at this time is to cut and paste the contents of the text override notes one at a time as sinc mentioned.   Or to explode them to mtext, but if you're going to do that you may as well just start with mtext.

 

thanks for sharing what you thought might be helpful though.

 

 

Dan

Civil 3D 2013
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Message 14 of 24
AllenJessup
in reply to: dgordon

Thanks Dan. I haven't had time to test it. If something comes of it. I'll let you know.

 

Allen Jessup



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 15 of 24
AllenJessup
in reply to: dgordon

I tested it and renaming the style does let you copy notes from Drawing to Drawing.

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 16 of 24
dgordon
in reply to: AllenJessup

I can see how if you make a copy of the style and paste the contents of the edited text into the new style this could now be a label that can be copied into multiple sheets.   But simply renaming the overall style will not save the text override.

 

another thing i encountered with general notes is not being able to TAB correctly from inside the general note editor.

Please see the attached image where the note on top is the general note label.   the dialogue box is how i entered the information in the text editor. 

 

the note at the bottom is the same note done with mtext.

 

On a side note I still cannot insert an image into the content of this reply.   a box comes up with options on where to insert a image from but the upload a file button is greyed out.   Autodesk said they fixed it, but I only see a little improvement and not a complete fix.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dan

Civil 3D 2013
Win 7 Pro x64
Intel Xeon 2.0GHz
12Gb Ram
ATI Firepro 4800
Dell T5500
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Message 17 of 24
troma
in reply to: dgordon

In answer to your side point, it seems to be working fine here.  I'm in chrome.

CER.PNG


Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

Message 18 of 24
dgordon
in reply to: troma

i'm using internet explorer 9.   maybe there is a newer version out there?

Dan

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Message 19 of 24
AllenJessup
in reply to: dgordon

IE 10 is out. I just installed it yesterday. It's a lot faster. I haven't used it enough to get a feel for any problems. None yet anyway.

 

Allen Jessup



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 20 of 24
Jay_B
in reply to: AllenJessup

Update Version 9.0.14 seems to work ok here.

 

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