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Flared End Section in Profile Views

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Message 1 of 28
Anonymous
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Flared End Section in Profile Views

Is there anyway to rotate a flared end section in the profile view. By default, my FES is rotated open end up. Thank you.
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Message 2 of 28
Casey Grabowski
in reply to: Anonymous

Civil 3D does not have actual Flared End Sections in the default Pipe Catalog, just headwalls. Sounds like you're trying to rotate or modify a non-concentric manhole or something?

Maybe when someone creates a real flared-end section for the Civil 3D pipe catalog, can he or she upload it, please?

Thanks!
Casey
Message 3 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hi Casey

I take a manhole and just apply an FES style to it. I edit the part, if
necessary, to make the inverts at the right spot. Unless you rotate it in
3D, you can't tell it is a MH. The labeling works out and you can even
apply rules to it so it happens automatically.

Parts builder annoys me for all but the simpliest revisions, so I try to
avoid it.

Dana

--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cadapult_civil



wrote in message news:5176330@discussion.autodesk.com...
Civil 3D does not have actual Flared End Sections in the default Pipe
Catalog, just headwalls. Sounds like you're trying to rotate or modify a
non-concentric manhole or something?

Maybe when someone creates a real flared-end section for the Civil 3D pipe
catalog, can he or she upload it, please?

Thanks!
Casey
Message 4 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Dana,

How do you designate between a right and a left side flared end section?
Message 5 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

unpopular answer: two blocks (left/right), two styles.

If anyone has a better way, I'd be open to change 🙂


--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cadapult_civil


wrote in message news:5176463@discussion.autodesk.com...
Dana,

How do you designate between a right and a left side flared end section?
Message 6 of 28
logokster
in reply to: Anonymous

Dana, I am having trouble with the endwall method you use. Could you try to explain it again to me. Treat me as if I am 8. Thanks.

Brandon
C3D 2007 SP3
Message 7 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

honestly, there are some blocks that just don't work well or require a lot
of my own trial an error.

here is my advice- if you can't get it to look right in profile, just make a
struture style that no shows in profile and insert you own block manually or
draw it by hand.


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Engineered Efficiency, Inc.
www.civil3d.com
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wrote in message news:5404083@discussion.autodesk.com...
Dana, I am having trouble with the endwall method you use. Could you try to
explain it again to me. Treat me as if I am 8. Thanks.

Brandon
C3D 2007 SP3
Message 8 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Does anyone have any idea how to get a flared end section actual part? Is there anyone that can be hired to create parts that we need?

thanks!

Clem
Message 9 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I'd like to try one. Let's have a detail dwg of the FES you want in
profile. This might be fun!

It's toast time!!! Todays toast is brought to you by the flavor Grape, the
color Purple and the number Two.

We're all in this together,

JD
Message 10 of 28
jwedding
in reply to: Anonymous

If you visit the blog, Mark has prepared some good articles on
partBuilder. If you'd like to consider hiring out your parts, drop me an
email, james.wedding @ any of those domains.

--
James Wedding, P.E.
Engineered Efficiency, Inc.
The Site: www.eng-eff.com
The Blog: www.civil3d.com
The Book: www.masteringcivil3d.com
C3D SP2 Mac Book Pro, XP SP2, 3GB
Message 11 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Hi John,

Attached is a .pdf of what I am looking to build part(s) of. Have a look if you wish. A parametric end section may very well be worthy of a toast 🙂

thanks!

Clem
Message 12 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Rather than just dive in, I'll think I'd better do some research first.
I'll try to have something for you soon, but it probably won't be today!

JD
Message 13 of 28
acoursen
in reply to: Anonymous

I have one that, quite frankly, I have forgotten where I got it, but it may have been from the following link:

http://civilcommunity.autodesk.com/content/styles/view/8260/

In the end, how accurate do you need to show it?

Andy
Andrew Coursen PE & LS
Message 14 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Andy,

Thanks!

JD
Message 15 of 28
acoursen
in reply to: Anonymous

My pleasure, but geez, all this prose and poetry and Lao/Tao and such that you are throwing around like candy at a parade, and all I get is "Thanks!"?

He who seeks darkness will be blinded.
Andy Message was edited by: Discussion Admin
Andrew Coursen PE & LS
Message 16 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

You make me laugh. And for thank I say, "Thanks again".

Hey Ma, they're makin' it fun!!!

JD
Message 17 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Dearest Clem, (this is not a Dear John letter, yet),

You may notice me playing around on here and wonder "Why isn't he creating
parts in the Part Builder?". I am looking at this a little every day. I
cannot bring myself to devote all my time to it since I'm finding the Parts
Builder is dumb and static in all the ways that C3D is smart and "dynamic".

Part modeling is apparently not accomplished in a methodology that we know
and love in Autocad. You seem to draw shapes or "profiles" hap-hazardly,
the way Dave Simeone draws pipe networks in the webcasts... THEN you
"dimension" (not our dimension), add modifiers (why draw what you want in
the first place, right?), and create and define (and re-define, and
associate and re-associate) every possible parameter even though they seem
obvious and redundant. Then, you can finally add some lists or tables with
optional sizes, then you can define the actual insertion point of the baby
you've just given birth to through the smallest oriface you have (it's very
painful, at first, for me, so far, ad infinium, ad nauseum). Create a .bmp
for displaying in the pick list, and you're done... Throw into the mix the
variable transition of the FES (I don't know for sure, but varying slopes at
the "B" dimesion on the detail drawing may or may not happen) and I'm
scaring myself just thinking about it. But I am thinking about it and
devising a plan of attack. I'll need alot of medics, I fear, there will be
casualties.

Oh well, I offered and I'll try to honor that offer (honor, offer, offer,
honor ever heard that one?).

I will not fear, fear is the mind-killer, the little death. I will bend like
a reed in the wind,

JD
Message 18 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

To whom it may concern,

Well, I've got the basic shape and working "calculations". Once I figure
out how to keep these workspaces constrained to each other and get the
insertion point working, I'll learn about the cut plane then "whack a hole"
in the wide end. I'm starting to think it's possible and may have it
completed before the new year. 😉

JD
Message 19 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

wow. looking good! Something i wish i knew more about. Of course, there are a lot of things like that.
Message 20 of 28
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

It just seems to go on and on... then they re-release!!!

Oh well, we shouldn't be bored!

JD

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