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Feature line linetype generation

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Anonymous
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Feature line linetype generation

Anyone know if they have addressed the issue of being able to generate
feature lines as a continuous linetype, like when you turn on linetype
generation in a polyline? I can't find it anywhere and I would have thought
this should have been addressed by now! Real basic need for plan creation!

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Larry Bettes
ADT, C3D & LDT/CD
(all 2007 with all SPs installed)
P4 - Dual Core 3.0 GHz, 3.00 GB RAM
nVidia GeForce 6800 GS AGP - 256 MB
Windows XP Pro, SP 2
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Message 2 of 50
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

As clarification, I am referring to the feature lines generated as part of
the corridor.

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Larry Bettes
ADT, C3D & LDT/CD
(all 2007 with all SPs installed)
P4 - Dual Core 3.0 GHz, 3.00 GB RAM
nVidia GeForce 6800 GS AGP - 256 MB
Windows XP Pro, SP 2


"Larry Bettes" wrote in message
news:5361651@discussion.autodesk.com...
Anyone know if they have addressed the issue of being able to generate
feature lines as a continuous linetype, like when you turn on linetype
generation in a polyline? I can't find it anywhere and I would have thought
this should have been addressed by now! Real basic need for plan creation!

--
Larry Bettes
ADT, C3D & LDT/CD
(all 2007 with all SPs installed)
P4 - Dual Core 3.0 GHz, 3.00 GB RAM
nVidia GeForce 6800 GS AGP - 256 MB
Windows XP Pro, SP 2
Message 3 of 50
timstalin
in reply to: Anonymous

I just thought I'd bump this old thread to see if this might have been implemented in 2008. Having corridors draw virtually all your production linework would be a huge asset.

I suppose it's possible currently if you don't require specific linetypes and can get away with differing thicknesses and plot styles.
Message 4 of 50
dana.probert
in reply to: Anonymous

i am pretty sure i did a 2008 rendering and noticed that my feature lines in the corridor weren't all continuous. if i have a chance i will open that dwg and see wassup
Dana Probert, P.E.
Technical Marketing Manager, Civil Engineering
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Message 5 of 50
dana.probert
in reply to: Anonymous

ok, i went in to the dwg. these are all feature lines that are still embedded into the corridor. i just changed the C-TOPO-FEAT layer to HIDDEN.

is this what you are looking for? Message was edited by: Dana Breig Probert
Dana Probert, P.E.
Technical Marketing Manager, Civil Engineering
Autodesk
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Message 6 of 50
timstalin
in reply to: Anonymous

Thanks Dana,

It looks like it's the same as previous versions. I suppose if you keep the linetype spacing very tight and the corridor frequency far apart, the linetype won't be destroyed by the continuous vertexes. But it is still very noticeable where you tighten up the frequencies for curves. See attached (The left is 2D polylines (extracted from the corridor) with linetype generation enabled and the right is the original corridor).

Is there any chance that there's a hidden toggle to turn on linetype generation for feature lines?
Message 7 of 50
jwedding
in reply to: Anonymous

I would guess the reason this hasn't been addressed is that many people
consider the feature lines too tessellated for suitable linework,
dimensioning etc. Yours look good though, I'd guess it will be on the wish
list for 2009.

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James Wedding, P.E.
Engineered Efficiency, Inc.
Civil 3D 2007
XP Tablet, SP2, 2GHz, 2G
www.eng-eff.com
www.civil3d.com
Message 8 of 50
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Tim,

This was and is my exact issue. It seems a little ridiculous that I have to
redraw (export) all of the feature lines of my corridors when they are
already there for me, just not with a continuously generated linetype!

--
Larry Bettes
ADT, C3D & LDT/CD
(all 2007 with all SPs installed)
P4 - Dual Core 3.0 GHz, 3.00 GB RAM
nVidia GeForce 6800 GS AGP - 256 MB
Windows XP Pro, SP 2


wrote in message news:5537804@discussion.autodesk.com...
Thanks Dana,

It looks like it's the same as previous versions. I suppose if you keep the
linetype spacing very tight and the corridor frequency far apart, the
linetype won't be destroyed by the continuous vertexes. But it is still
very noticeable where you tighten up the frequencies for curves. See
attached (The left is 2D polylines (extracted from the corridor) with
linetype generation enabled and the right is the original corridor).

Is there any chance that there's a hidden toggl
e to turn on linetype generation for feature lines?
Message 9 of 50
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Tim,

This was and is my exact issue. It seems a little ridiculous that I have to
redraw (export) all of the feature lines of my corridors when they are
already there for me, just not with a continuously generated linetype!

--
Larry Bettes
ADT, C3D & LDT/CD
(all 2007 with all SPs installed)
P4 - Dual Core 3.0 GHz, 3.00 GB RAM
nVidia GeForce 6800 GS AGP - 256 MB
Windows XP Pro, SP 2


wrote in message news:5537804@discussion.autodesk.com...
Thanks Dana,

It looks like it's the same as previous versions. I suppose if you keep the
linetype spacing very tight and the corridor frequency far apart, the
linetype won't be destroyed by the continuous vertexes. But it is still
very noticeable where you tighten up the frequencies for curves. See
attached (The left is 2D polylines (extracted from the corridor) with
linetype generation enabled and the right is the original corridor).

Is there any chance that there's a hidden toggl
e to turn on linetype generation for feature lines?
Message 10 of 50
Sinc
in reply to: Anonymous

Not being able to turn on linetype generation for Survey Figures has been driving us crazy. The fencelines in particular look terrible in all our design surveys.

The other problem is not being able to turn on linetype generation in a Profile View, so that the Existing Ground surface shows up as a nice, even dashed line.
Sinc
Message 11 of 50
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Just a thought here, 3DPoly's do not have linetype generation, either. Since
Figures & Featurelines are 3D do they get their base class from the Acad
3DPoly thereby making it difficult, at best, to add the LTGen?

My Existing Ground profiles look almost exactly how I'd want them. I sure
think that LTGen is enabled on them. You mean to say yours don't look like
this?

Jeff


wrote in message news:5540347@discussion.autodesk.com...
Not being able to turn on linetype generation for Survey Figures has been
driving us crazy. The fencelines in particular look terrible in all our
design surveys.

The other problem is not being able to turn on linetype generation in a
Profile View, so that the Existing Ground surface shows up as a nice, even
dashed line.
Message 12 of 50
Sinc
in reply to: Anonymous

???

This is something that's only come up once or twice for us so far. I think I found the project where we were trying to create an EG profile, and we kept getting no linetype generation. But I had absolutely no problem this time... I was able to get linetype generation either by changing the linetype in the Profile Style, or by setting it to ByLayer and using the EG Profile layer. Both worked just fine.

Maybe I was having one of those transient problems that solve themselves when C3D is killed and restarted...?
Sinc
Message 13 of 50
acoursen
in reply to: Anonymous

I've found that the ltgen for an existing profile is fine when the profile is dynamic, but loses it when it is static.

Andy
Andrew Coursen PE & LS
Message 14 of 50
sakka252
in reply to: Anonymous

Has there been a solution yet. This is a major problem, as others have stated, with survey figures.
Message 15 of 50
_Hathaway
in reply to: sakka252

We ran into this again today using Civil3d 2010.  Anyone using 2011 or 2012 chime in to let us know if this has been fixed?  In the meantime I guess I will just have to explode my fence so i can actually see the fence linetype.

Message 16 of 50

In 2011 the linetype generation issue is still a problem with feature lines and survey figures. The linetypes show as you'd expect (without line type generation) but no linetype continuation around corners. 2012 is the same.



If a post provides a fix for your issue, click on "Accept as Solution" to help other users find solutions to problems they might have that are similar to yours.

Andrew Puller
Maitland, NSW, Australia
Windows 10 Enterprise 64bit
Intel core i7 11800 @ 2.30 GHz with 32GB Ram
Civil 3d 2021
Message 17 of 50
Sinc
in reply to: andrewpuller3811

Well, in Autodesk's defense, the first post in this thread was in 2006, so it's not like they've had much time to work on this problem...  Smiley Wink

Sinc
Message 18 of 50
ArchD
in reply to: Anonymous

I hate this problem. I have it also.

 

I do know of a solution, but it's limited. If you convert your drawings into Style Based pen settings and set a style to be dashed (or whatever linetype you need), it will show feature lines, as well as 3D Polylines as dashed through corners when printed/previewed. Sadly, the amount of linetypes you can assign to a style are pretty limited. It seems that you can't use linetypes from a custom linetype file, only works with default linetypes.

 

Another problem we have is that so many people are so bent on Color Based pen settings that they have no clue on what to do when they come across Style Based drawings. For convienence, we stick with color based, even though I would rather convert to style based, but problems like this in color based drawings drive me crazy. I sure wish AutoDesk would add this feature to 3D polylines and Feature lines.

Archie Dodge
Applications Expert - Infrastructure Solutions Division
IMAGINiT Technologies
Message 19 of 50
Jeff_M
in reply to: ArchD


@ArchD wrote:

I hate this problem. I have it also.

 

... I sure wish AutoDesk would add this feature to 3D polylines and Feature lines.



See the first bullet point HERE

Jeff_M, also a frequent Swamper
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Message 20 of 50
ArchD
in reply to: Jeff_M

That's awesome! Does this apply to 3D polyline objects?

 

Sad part is we just talked our parent company to release 2012 licenses to us just a few weeks ago. I'll have to wait another year it seems before I get this superb new feature.

Archie Dodge
Applications Expert - Infrastructure Solutions Division
IMAGINiT Technologies

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