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Creating Data Shortcuts Problem

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Message 1 of 51
JBozz300
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Creating Data Shortcuts Problem

Morning everyone...

So I have this little issue that's bothered me now for a couple of weeks or so.  I have a design drawing with several alignments and profiles, and have created a corridor with a surface and all, and now have to create some plan-profiles.  So I created the view-frames, then the sheets and all looks good.  Now back in my design I create some new profiles by layout in existing profile views and want those new profiles to show up in the plan-profiles I created.  I save the drawing then goto my project in toolspace and right-click then select "Create Data Shortcuts" and it tells me that the drawing must be saved.  So I save it then repeat, and get the same thing.  So I save the drawing then close cad.  It ask me to save even though I don't do anything (i.e. run a command or zoom or pan).  I save, get out, then restart.  Open the drawing and the first thing I do is try to create the data shortcuts and it tells me to save the drawing first.  I save then retry and it says the same thing. ISAVEPERCENT is set to 0 for a full save.  I do have some apps loaded and running, but that will only affect when I first start the drawing and not later after doing work then saving.  I also have the latest service patch installed.  Any ideas?

JBozz300 Out!
C3D 2014 SP1
i7-3770 @ 3.40
16 GB - Win 7 Pro-64 SP1
NVidia Quadro 2000
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Message 2 of 51
klugb
in reply to: JBozz300

Do you know if the "Save" command has been redefined? We had that problem because we were doing some layer manipulating during the save command.

 

We had to issue ".save" instead when working with data shortcuts. See if that works.

 

Bruce Klug, P.E.
AutoCAD Expert Elite Alumni
AutoCAD Civil 3D Certified Professional
Civil 3D 2023.2.1

Win 10 Enterprise, 64-bit
Message 3 of 51
JBozz300
in reply to: JBozz300

Does not appear to have been re-written.  Whether I hit the save button, run the save command, or save-as, or qsave it save the drawing.  I've also gotten out of the drawing and saved it as I get out, then re-open the drawing without getting out of C3D and it still does it.  Not sure if it's a bug or what.  Eventually after saving and getting out 3 or 4 times it finally let me save the data shortcuts.  But I still don't know why it went thru all of this.

JBozz300 Out!
C3D 2014 SP1
i7-3770 @ 3.40
16 GB - Win 7 Pro-64 SP1
NVidia Quadro 2000
Message 4 of 51
JeffPaulsen
in reply to: JBozz300

Have you tried what Bruce suggested? Be sure to include the leading period.

 

**Edit**  I think you may want to use ".qsave".

Jeff Paulsen
Civil 3D 2020.4 | Win 10 Pro N 64-bit
Xeon W-2223 @ 3.60GHz, 32GB Ram | NVidia Quadro P2200
Message 5 of 51
JBozz300
in reply to: JBozz300

Just tried it and it still asked me to save the drawing after the fact.  And this is also on a different drawing (project) as well.  Also did a qsave and it still asked me to save the drawing.

JBozz300 Out!
C3D 2014 SP1
i7-3770 @ 3.40
16 GB - Win 7 Pro-64 SP1
NVidia Quadro 2000
Message 6 of 51
Jason.Hickey
in reply to: JBozz300

I'm curious - are the files stored on a network or locally? If they're networked, put them on the local drive and see if you still have the same problem. It sounds like a system problem with file permissions - are you running the program as an admin?



Jason Hickey
Premium Services Specialist
Autodesk, Inc.

Message 7 of 51
JBozz300
in reply to: JBozz300

The project is on the network, and all of our projects are networked.  They have been networked for awhile now and I've not had this problem before.  As far as admin rights, I'm pretty sure I have them.  When I get the chance I will try and copy over the project to my local drive and see if that fixes the problem.

JBozz300 Out!
C3D 2014 SP1
i7-3770 @ 3.40
16 GB - Win 7 Pro-64 SP1
NVidia Quadro 2000
Message 8 of 51
Jason.Hickey
in reply to: JBozz300

Tell me about the network - plain Windows Server storage location?



Jason Hickey
Premium Services Specialist
Autodesk, Inc.

Message 9 of 51
JBozz300
in reply to: JBozz300

Running Win Server 2008- 64 bit with a domain controller at each of our offices.

JBozz300 Out!
C3D 2014 SP1
i7-3770 @ 3.40
16 GB - Win 7 Pro-64 SP1
NVidia Quadro 2000
Message 10 of 51
Jason.Hickey
in reply to: JBozz300

Nothing unusual there. Since this isn't something that happens all the time with other data, could you log a case with us and upload the data? I'll be more than happy to take a look at it and see if I can tell what's going on.



Jason Hickey
Premium Services Specialist
Autodesk, Inc.

Message 11 of 51
JBozz300
in reply to: JBozz300

If I get a chance I'll try and do that.  Funny thing is I just created several more alignments for centerlines and EOPs and it did the same thing.  So I shut the drawing down and went to another cad tech and got her to open the drawing.  She was not working on the project at all and was able to switch projects, save the drawing, and then add the data shortcuts of the new alignments that I had created earlier with no problems.  So this tells me that it might be my install, or maybe something with my profile.  Thoughts along this line?

JBozz300 Out!
C3D 2014 SP1
i7-3770 @ 3.40
16 GB - Win 7 Pro-64 SP1
NVidia Quadro 2000
Message 12 of 51
mmcpl
in reply to: JBozz300

i have same problem that I am not able to create data shortcut after saving my file as well as i am not able to import styles from other drawing. so i repaired my civil 3D. and it work but after make any changes and save my file again same problem occurs i got the message save before drawing to create data shortcut and again i need to repair civil 3D. and i also update with service pack-1..so please tell me what to do? it is time consuming each time to repair and open the drawing and create data shortcut and again make some change and close with save and again repair and again open the drawing and create data short cut..so please how can i come out from this cycle?  and i also create case in subscription login..and i got response that check in tutorial files or other files so in that files its solve but while i started another project and data shortcut works for few days but after same problem generated...so i don''t know why this is happen in 2011 version i doesn't get this problem but in 2012 i got this problem...

Message 13 of 51
dorkyfreak
in reply to: JBozz300

I'm having the same problem as well! I just upgraded my drawing to 2012 . And when I want to create data shortcut, I have the same message "please save drawing before creating data shortcut" and there's no other way around it in creating one...=(

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Message 14 of 51
Jeff_M
in reply to: dorkyfreak

What is your option set to under Options->Open and Save-> Save As: ?

Jeff_M, also a frequent Swamper
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Message 15 of 51
JBozz300
in reply to: JBozz300

Mine is set to Autocad 2010 Drawing.

JBozz300 Out!
C3D 2014 SP1
i7-3770 @ 3.40
16 GB - Win 7 Pro-64 SP1
NVidia Quadro 2000
Message 16 of 51
Jeff_M
in reply to: JBozz300

OK, it was a shot in the dark that maybe if it were set to an older version it would fail. But I just did some testing here and I can still create the shortcuts even with it set to Autocad 2007 file format. 

Jeff_M, also a frequent Swamper
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Message 17 of 51
RBedard
in reply to: JBozz300

I was having the exact same issue on one of my drawings so I gave the ".SAVE" with no results. I then tried the ".qsave after and it seemed to work. I decided to try DS on a project I worked on last year and low behold I had the same issue. So, I duplicated my experiment and it worked??? If any one has an idea why this is happening it sure would be appreciated. BTW, this was all after I did a repair ( which was found not to be needed). DELL T7400 C3D 2012-SP1 Xeon Quad X5482 @ 3.2 8 GB - Win 7 Pro-64 SP1 NVidia Quadro FX 1700
Message 18 of 51
mmcpl
in reply to: JBozz300

i got solution...i recoverd that drawing and after save i can create data shortcut.

Message 19 of 51
JBozz300
in reply to: mmcpl

So has anyone come up with a solution to this "data shortcuts" problem yet?  I continue to have this problem, even after doing a repair on my C3D.  And I am having this problem on multiple projects.  One's that I created as well as other projects that other designers created an have worked on for months now.

JBozz300 Out!
C3D 2014 SP1
i7-3770 @ 3.40
16 GB - Win 7 Pro-64 SP1
NVidia Quadro 2000
Message 20 of 51
JeffPaulsen
in reply to: JBozz300


@jason.hickey wrote:

Nothing unusual there. Since this isn't something that happens all the time with other data, could you log a case with us and upload the data? I'll be more than happy to take a look at it and see if I can tell what's going on.


Did you ever open a case with Autodesk?

 

It appears .qsave worked for others who posted here. Are you sure you typed in the leading period?

Jeff Paulsen
Civil 3D 2020.4 | Win 10 Pro N 64-bit
Xeon W-2223 @ 3.60GHz, 32GB Ram | NVidia Quadro P2200

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