Connecting Pipes/Manholes from different networks

[Anonymous]

Hi,

Seems to me that something has changed in the program that will not allow
parts from different networks. I used to be able to connect a proposed pipe
to an existing manhole, but now an error appears saying that parts from
different networks cannot be connected. Since I started this project in
2006, some proposed pipes are connected to existing manholes, but anything
created in 2007 cannot do this. Is there a way to over-ride this feature or
am I stuck with it? Essentially, this comes down to labelling of the pipe
inverts - which I can do manually, but why should I have to.....

Thanks,
Steve Engman

[Anonymous]

Steve:
Have you checked out the "Inquiry Commands" tool palette?

Bill

"Steve Engman" wrote in message
news:5252531@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi,

Seems to me that something has changed in the program that will not allow
parts from different networks. I used to be able to connect a proposed pipe
to an existing manhole, but now an error appears saying that parts from
different networks cannot be connected. Since I started this project in
2006, some proposed pipes are connected to existing manholes, but anything
created in 2007 cannot do this. Is there a way to over-ride this feature or
am I stuck with it? Essentially, this comes down to labelling of the pipe
inverts - which I can do manually, but why should I have to.....

Thanks,
Steve Engman

[Anonymous]

Steve:
Sorry, it appears I "undershot" and replied to the wrong post.

Bill

On to your problem. I don't recall that you could connect to different
networks in 2006. Are you confusing this with different Pipe Alignments
(lines)? You can have an unlimited number of lines in a single Network?


"wfb" wrote in message
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Steve:
Have you checked out the "Inquiry Commands" tool palette?

Bill

"Steve Engman" wrote in message
news:5252531@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi,

Seems to me that something has changed in the program that will not allow
parts from different networks. I used to be able to connect a proposed pipe
to an existing manhole, but now an error appears saying that parts from
different networks cannot be connected. Since I started this project in
2006, some proposed pipes are connected to existing manholes, but anything
created in 2007 cannot do this. Is there a way to over-ride this feature or
am I stuck with it? Essentially, this comes down to labelling of the pipe
inverts - which I can do manually, but why should I have to.....

Thanks,
Steve Engman

[Anonymous]

Edit Network is the key here.
Lets you add lines to an existing network.
One part of the class I didn't sleep through.
HTH.

John Postlewait
IS Department
George Butler Associates, Inc.

PS No offense to my instructor, I was making fun of me not him.

[Anonymous]

jpostlewait wrote:
> Edit Network is the key here.
> Lets you add lines to an existing network.
> One part of the class I didn't sleep through.
> HTH.
>
> John Postlewait
> IS Department
> George Butler Associates, Inc.
>
> PS No offense to my instructor, I was making fun of me not him.

But where were you on the day they taught Vault? 😉

Sorry, John, I absolutely could NOT resist....that was a poke at you AND
your instructor 😉

--
Jason, trying to un-hose drawings, and feeling cheeky

[Anonymous]

We did spend some time trying to come up with the proper vulgarity to apply when discussing that subject. Didn't come up with anything that exactly fit.

And this after I let you off the hook on the pimp comment.

That's the kind of thanks I get?

;-)

John P.

[Anonymous]

jpostlewait wrote:
> We did spend some time trying to come up with the proper vulgarity to
> apply when discussing that subject. Didn't come up with anything that
> exactly fit.
>
> And this after I let you off the hook on the pimp comment.
>
> That's the kind of thanks I get?

You just don't know how hard I was laughing as I typed that. My
daughter was looking at me funny (but what's new about that...)

--
Jason, passing time babysitting 'til babymama come home....

[Anonymous]

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--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
CADapult Ltd
Empowering Design With Innovative Solutions
www.cadapult.net
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"Jason Hickey" wrote in message
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jpostlewait wrote:
> We did spend some time trying to come up with the proper vulgarity to
> apply when discussing that subject. Didn't come up with anything that
> exactly fit.
>
> And this after I let you off the hook on the pimp comment.
>
> That's the kind of thanks I get?

You just don't know how hard I was laughing as I typed that. My
daughter was looking at me funny (but what's new about that...)

--
Jason, passing time babysitting 'til babymama come home....

[Anonymous]

You can continue to build on a pipe network that has been started by using
the tool John mentions, however if two pipe networks have been created
already, I do not know of a way to connect them.

Another alternative might be to consider all of the pipes as part of the
same network, just change their individual styles accordingly to show a
visual distinction between existing and proposed.

I am actually surprised it was possible in 2006. I guess since I tend to
think of my pipe networks as "draining to one point" I would have put them
all in one network from the get go.

Anyone else have feedback?


--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
CADapult Ltd
Empowering Design With Innovative Solutions
www.cadapult.net
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"Steve Engman" wrote in message
news:5252531@discussion.autodesk.com...
Hi,

Seems to me that something has changed in the program that will not allow
parts from different networks. I used to be able to connect a proposed pipe
to an existing manhole, but now an error appears saying that parts from
different networks cannot be connected. Since I started this project in
2006, some proposed pipes are connected to existing manholes, but anything
created in 2007 cannot do this. Is there a way to over-ride this feature or
am I stuck with it? Essentially, this comes down to labelling of the pipe
inverts - which I can do manually, but why should I have to.....

Thanks,
Steve Engman

[Anonymous]

Trust me Babe you didn't invent that system.
Even I can remember that.
We were teasing James just before he left not to expect to see his wife this weekend after being gone.
The one pipe network is goofy.
Anybody ever had a site on a ridgeline before?
Anybody ever have a project that fell into 2 sewer districts?
He must be sleeping in today or his Honey Do list may be a backbreaker.

Chiao

John P.

[Anonymous]

right- all pipes draining to one common drainage point = network in my mind.

i know we have gone round and round about this before on the DG (not you and
me, but others)

I guess

1) On a ridgeline- tell me more
2) two sewer districts- but still connected? telll me more

maybe i need to blog about this...


--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
CADapult Ltd
Empowering Design With Innovative Solutions
www.cadapult.net
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[Anonymous]

jpostlewait wrote:
> Trust me Babe you didn't invent that system.
> Even I can remember that.
> We were teasing James just before he left not to expect to see his wife this weekend after being gone.
> The one pipe network is goofy.
> Anybody ever had a site on a ridgeline before?
> Anybody ever have a project that fell into 2 sewer districts?
> He must be sleeping in today or his Honey Do list may be a backbreaker.


ahhh, the life of a travelin' man....

--
Jason, home for the weekend

[Anonymous]

Ok, this is now officially a real problem because i finally thought of a
reason why i would need to do this

(that is a joke, BTW)

while i still stand by my one drainage point= one network idea

I did run in to the situation where we might want to experiment with
different stormwater routings from one pond to another. therefore, i would
need to disconnect a pipe from one network and join it over with another to
get the desired balance.

this may take a few iterations... any ideas? i am experimenting with
intellisolve to figure out if it can be done there then landxmled back in.

--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
CADapult Ltd
Empowering Design With Innovative Solutions
www.cadapult.net
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[Anonymous]

Not a real problem Dana.
Faulty logic on my part.
You can have multiple pipe networks in a project they just can't link.
Makes sense.
Have seen a couple of relief main projects where that might be an issue, but they are not real common.

John P.

[Anonymous]

Steve -

I am not sure if your question was answered here as the posting got off on a tangent and I lost interest. Hope you classes at AU are not like this!!! You know who I am talking to!!! (I know I might catch crap for this but it will give me something to talk about at AU).

Anyways, let's get beack to the topic at hand. This function definitely was available in 2006 and was very much appreciated. However, now that it is been stripped out of 2007 that irritates me a little bit. I wil see shat I can do to fix the problem. I like exploring!!!

[Anonymous]

Since I am the only AU presenter in the thread that i am aware of, I would
take that as a reference to me.

And to answer your question (despite the fact that it takes us off on a
tangent)

If you mean will my AU class be like this as in: spending a lot of time
doing my best to answer DG questions, write blog entries that might help
people find a some tools, learning as much as I can myself so I can continue
to do better, and still have a lot of fun?

If that is the question, then the answer is ABSOLUTELY.

and PS I agree that it should be possible. I just hadn't found it in 2006
so I didnt miss it in 2007.


--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
CADapult Ltd
Empowering Design With Innovative Solutions
www.cadapult.net
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