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Confused!

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Message 1 of 12
Thoisington
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Confused!

I am familiar with the feature line elevation editor, and use it often, but something doesn't make sense to me. How can the grade ahead and grade back slopes be different than the corresponding point ahead or back.

i.e. If point #1 has a grade ahead of 2%, how can point #2 have a grade back different than 2%?

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Message 2 of 12
jmayo-EE
in reply to: Thoisington

If I understand you correctly, you can't. They are the same run along the feature line.

 

Point one runs ahead to point 2 while point 2 runs backward to point 1.

John Mayo

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Message 3 of 12
Thoisington
in reply to: jmayo-EE

I agree. How can point 1 ahead be different than point 2 back? See attachment. This isn't something I want to achieve, it's something that already happens and I don't understand it.

Message 4 of 12
wfberry
in reply to: jmayo-EE

John:

 

I believe I know what he is talking about.  Sta 1 Line will have the same % grade on it except one is positive and one is negative.  It is somewhat confusing but if the grade ahead is negative in the first column then that same number will be positive IF you are grading back to Sta 1.

 

It takes a little adjustment to understand this.

 

Bill

 

Message 5 of 12
Neilw_05
in reply to: wfberry

Something is obviously wrong with your elevation editor. Each PI has identical back and ahead slopes. You might try Audit. If that doesn't help then you'll need to do some troubleshooting to find out where the problem is.

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
WIN 10 64 PRO

http://www.sec-landmgt.com
Message 6 of 12
wfberry
in reply to: Thoisington

In your png file think about it this way.

 

Your point 1 grade away to Point 2 is the first column.  Grade from Point 2 back to Point 1 is the second column on the Point 1 line.

 

Bill

 

 

Message 7 of 12
Jeff_M
in reply to: Neilw_05

Neil, that is exactly how my EE looks...nothing wrong with it.

Jeff_M, also a frequent Swamper
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Message 8 of 12
wfberry
in reply to: Neilw_05

Neil:

 

Since you replied to me.  Have you looked at a feature line editor lately?

Smiley Happy

 

Bill

 

Message 9 of 12
Neilw_05
in reply to: wfberry

Woops Smiley Surprised

 

I guess you are supposed to look at it by column, not by row. My bad.

 

That IS confusing.

Neil Wilson (a.k.a. neilw)
AEC Collection/C3D 2024, LDT 2004, Power Civil v8i SS1
WIN 10 64 PRO

http://www.sec-landmgt.com
Message 10 of 12
JeffPaulsen
in reply to: Thoisington

My grading editor looks the same as the PNG file. It appears to me that the values in the Grade Back column should just be shifted down one row.

Jeff Paulsen
Civil 3D 2020.4 | Win 10 Pro N 64-bit
Xeon W-2223 @ 3.60GHz, 32GB Ram | NVidia Quadro P2200
Message 11 of 12
Thoisington
in reply to: JeffPaulsen

So I have confirmation! It IS confusing, and likely the rows should be shifted. Is this a fault of the editor then and I should just accept it and move on?

Message 12 of 12
Jeff_M
in reply to: Thoisington

It is what it is......whoever the programmer is who wrote this tool thought this was a suitable format. But it really should be more like the Profile Editor which would make it less confusing.

Jeff_M, also a frequent Swamper
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