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fcernst
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Confirmed Defect - Structural Material Volume Shapes

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11-06-2013 04:03 AM

The image below shows the Pave1 material volume shape being created only on the Left side, and the Urbangutter material volume shape only being created on the Right side.

 

 

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Re: Confirmed Defect - Structural Material Volume Shapes

11-06-2013 04:57 AM in reply to: fcernst
I love the standard response about "...future consideration in updates and product releases.."; I'd have thought if it's a defect it automatically gets to the top of the pile.....Get some people off the 360/Cloud nonsense and deploy them to fix things...not as sexy but more use to the engineers who have to design and build things in the real world rather than the fluffy conceptualizing and blue sky thinking.
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Re: Confirmed Defect - Structural Material Volume Shapes

11-06-2013 05:12 AM in reply to: neilyj

...To be considered for future release?...For repairing a mainstream design tool  that was delivered broken in the latest Service Pack release...?

 

...For further consideration at the quarterly meeting?

 

Yes, this again clearly demonstrates how Civil 3D management  is incredibly detached (aloof) from its Customer base....  A customer base that deals with weekly project deadlines that depend on the software.

 

 

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Re: Confirmed Defect - Structural Material Volume Shapes

11-06-2013 05:20 AM in reply to: fcernst

fcernst wrote:

...To be considered for future release?...For repairing a mainstream design tool  that was delivered broken in the latest Service Pack release...?

 

...For further consideration at the quarterly meeting?

 

Yes, this again clearly demonstrates how Civil 3D management  is incredibly detached (aloof) from its Customer base....  A customer base that deals with weekly project deadlines that depend on the software.

 

 


That is quite surprising. So the team developing Civil 3D only meets four times a year? No wonder nothing is getting fixed and nothing is being checked before service packs are being sent out. This kind of issue should be worked on immediately as a hotfix then apply that hotfix to the service pack so that no one else downloads a faulty service pack. 

 

As much flack as Microsoft gets for making buggy software, I've rarely seen one of their updates ever break existing functions in Windows or Office and Windows is a much, much larger program to deal with than Civil 3D. 

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Re: Confirmed Defect - Structural Material Volume Shapes

11-06-2013 07:18 AM in reply to: neilyj

The cloud-based designers won't have the background or toolset to be writing that code - they are focused on their specific technology.  This isn't like a civil designer you can pick up off one project to help make deadlines on another.  Different skill sets.

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Re: Confirmed Defect - Structural Material Volume Shapes

11-06-2013 07:34 AM in reply to: dgorsman
Quite - although we couldn't say that with certainty as we know nothing about the programmers/designers backgrounds - but the point is that Autodesk seem to be pushing the Cloud /360 stuff and leaving Civil 3D drifting with no apparent direction....apart from the quarterly meetings of course.....!!!!
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Re: Confirmed Defect - Structural Material Volume Shapes

11-06-2013 08:51 AM in reply to: fcernst

but the point is that Autodesk seem to be pushing the Cloud /360 stuff and leaving Civil 3D drifting with no apparent direction

 


This is a great point, and it just made me realize what is probably also going wrong with Civil 3D. The Cloud industry is currently very popular and lucrative . Everyone is competing: Apple, Microsoft, Citirix, etc. 

 

Now Autodesk wants a piece of this action...

 

The perception is our subscription fees and initial software investments are being disproportionately used to fund an Autodesk foray into the Cloud market. It has been clearly demonstrated Civil 3D is languishing, in devastating fashion, even with subscription fees still being collected from its Customers.

 

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