The company I work for uses is in the process of implementing Bentley ProjectWise. Being a Bentley product it works well with AutoPLANT and ProStructures but it’s still a bit grey on how well it’s going to interface with Civil 3D.
Anyone out there have any insight to a reasonably successful implementation of Civil 3D data referencing inside of the ProjectWise V8i (SELECTseries 3) file store?
I understand that DWG’s can be managed with this package, but not the data shortcut source DWG or the XML files?
I’m looking for experience on what workflows were successful (or unsuccessful)?
Thanks in advance for any input/insight,
If you would care to access Bentley Communities you might want to look up Michael Kolster who is the CAD Systems Manager for the Port of Long Beach. They use both Bentley products and C3D with Projectwise. He would probably have much insight into the issues you face.
A white paper can be found here - http://communities.bentley.com/products/projectwis
We have it working.
Things to do.
The premise for all of this is that the local DMS folder structure is identical for all users.
That is, the "normal" method of having a user name as part of the local DMS folder structure is NOT used in this scenario.
It means that DMS folders are "by computer" rather than "by user"...but you just need to "get over it" if this methodology is to function as I describe.
Agree to use C:\Civil 3D Projects folder as the place to store all your data shortcuts locally.
Create them here also.
Set your DS working folder as C:\Civil 3D Projects.
Create project DS folders here. They can be named by the user as anything you like...ie, the local folder names do not need to be the same across users.
Once created, Drag and drop them (with subfolders) into an agreed folder in Projectwise in your project location.
Other users who need to interface with data shortcuts need to copy out the_shortcuts folder into their C:\Civil 3D Projects folder.
Any further data shortcuts created need to be dropped into PW in the agreed place so they can also be exported by others who need to create dref'd objects. You need to tell others that new data shortcuts have been created.
If other users do not need to create or modify dref'd objects, there is no need to copy out the data shortcuts.
PW does not yet have the methodology to handle data shortcuts on its own, so we XREF any data shortcut source files into our drawings onto a layer that can be frozen and no-plot. This eliminates unnecessary XREF regens but when someone alters a source drawing, the XREF notification comes on so it will alert users that a source drawing has changed. It then also invokes the syncronise bubble. (very sneaky..but it works).
There is no substitute for a good communication strategy with this.
The Bentley Green paper on this subject promotes use of a shared external server for storing data shortcuts for sharing. This is cumbersome for those of us who need to share data over remote geographies.
This is not necessarily the only way or the best way to do this, but it works for us. If it works for you too, then great.
Bentley has a "Green Book" on their Be Communities site that has some helpful tips on using Civil 3D with ProjectWise. While the current integration is mostly around supporting the underlying CAD, Bentley plans to deepen the integration in a release of ProjectWise due in the first half of 2012. There are some parts of Civil 3D for which there isn't an API. Some Autodesk users are now asking that the API be enhanced so the integration can be more robust.
Not the original topic but a related question to the right audience. When installing ProjectWise SS3 on Civil 3D 2011 (and AutoCAD 2011) an undesired side effect is the disabling of the AutoCAD Properties dialog box. When you select objects the box goes blank. We have verified that this is indeed caused by the install of ProjectWise SS3. If you uninstall PW the Properties dialog box goes back to normal operation. Anyone else experience this behavior? If so, do you have a simple fix not requiring the rinstall or repair of AutoCAD / C3D? Thanks
Yes, I have seen this but did not recognise that it was due to Projectwise.
My properties dialogue is OK now, so I am not sure what setting fixed it.
We figured out how to fix the broken Properties dialog box in AutoCAD 2011 and Civil 3D 2011 when ProjectWise is loaded. Copy the file C:\Program Files\Common Files\Autodesk Shared\axdb18enu.tlb to C:\Program Files\Bentley\ProjectWise V8i SS3\Bin\RealDWG, replacing the file with the same name. Your ProjectWise directory my be different. Apparently the files in the Bentley directory are AutoCAD r2010 files.