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vilomar
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Civil 3D Label Styles Annotation Scale versus Vieport Scale

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06-26-2009 08:12 AM
am in the process of setting up a standard file for all designers to use our local office. This file will have most of the styles created for profiles, alignments, surfaces, profile views, etc... as mostly specified by the customer and industry standards.

I am having trouble maintaining the correct annotation scale in the viewport in paperspace and when plotting.

The attached word document has 3 figures. Fig 1 shows the correct viewport scale and correct annotation scale. Fig 2 shows how the annotation scale abruptly changes during the plotting process. This abrupt annotation scale change sometimes happens during the regen process or when I switch from layout to model space and back to layout.The annotation scale goes from 1:1 to 1:40 just as in the viewport. This change in annotation scale is not supposed to happen because I want to preserve a certain plotting height for my text versus a viewport scale by using various annotation scales.

I have researched the procedures for annotation scale and have not found any info related to this "abrupt change in annotation scale".

Curiously , this abrupt change in annotation scale does not happen if the text does not belong to any styles within Civil 3D. Stand alone text stays at the correct annotation scale and is not affected in the same way.

Please let me know if there is a procedure I am missing in my research.
*wfb
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Re: Civil 3D Label Styles Annotation Scale versus Vieport Scale

06-26-2009 08:20 AM in reply to: vilomar
Change your drawing scale to be the same as your Viewport scale and see if
that fixes your problem.

Bill

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am in the process of setting up a standard file for all designers to use our
local office. This file will have most of the styles created for profiles,
alignments, surfaces, profile views, etc... as mostly specified by the
customer and industry standards.

I am having trouble maintaining the correct annotation scale in the viewport
in paperspace and when plotting.

The attached word document has 3 figures. Fig 1 shows the correct viewport
scale and correct annotation scale. Fig 2 shows how the annotation scale
abruptly changes during the plotting process. This abrupt annotation scale
change sometimes happens during the regen process or when I switch from
layout to model space and back to layout.The annotation scale goes from 1:1
to 1:40 just as in the viewport. This change in annotation scale is not
supposed to happen because I want to preserve a certain plotting height for
my text versus a viewport scale by using various annotation scales.

I have researched the procedures for annotation scale and have not found any
info related to this "abrupt change in annotation scale".

Curiously , this abrupt change in annotation scale does not happen if the
text does not belong to any styles within Civil 3D. Stand alone text stays
at the correct annotation scale and is not affected in the same way.

Please let me know if there is a procedure I am missing in my research.
*Joe Bouza
Message 3 of 30 (2,591 Views)

Re: Civil 3D Label Styles Annotation Scale versus Vieport Scale

06-26-2009 10:19 AM in reply to: vilomar


If I understand correctly - this is what you are
trying to achieve?

 

 



--
Thanks,
Joe

 

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE'
People)
Civil 3D 2008
Win XP pro
v 2002, sp 2
hp workstation
xw4600
Intel Core Duo CPU
E7200 @2.53 GHz
3 GB RAM
NIVDIA Quadro FX
1700 (512MB)
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malcolml
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Message 4 of 30 (2,591 Views)

Re: Civil 3D Label Styles Annotation Scale versus Vieport Scale

06-26-2009 10:34 AM in reply to: vilomar
Joe,

Your image illustrates the way Civil 3D normally works. How do you prevent the text height changing with different viewport scales?
*wfb
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Re: Civil 3D Label Styles Annotation Scale versus Vieport Scale

06-26-2009 10:54 AM in reply to: vilomar
Just use regular MTEXT.

Bill

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news:6209412@discussion.autodesk.com...
Joe,

Your image illustrates the way Civil 3D normally works. How do you prevent
the text height changing with different viewport scales?
*wfb
Message 6 of 30 (2,591 Views)

Re: Civil 3D Label Styles Annotation Scale versus Vieport Scale

06-26-2009 11:00 AM in reply to: vilomar

Joe:

 

Why do you mix anno scale with Civil 3D
Labels?   Other than the fact that when you change the anno scale
it Normally changes the Drawing Scale.  The Drawing scale sets the
Label size in Model Space and the Viewport Scale sets the Civil 3D label
within the Viewport.

 

Civil 3D Labels pre-dated the annotation
scale.

 

Bill
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Message 7 of 30 (2,591 Views)

Re: Civil 3D Label Styles Annotation Scale versus Vieport Scale

06-26-2009 11:01 AM in reply to: vilomar
Bill,

This is not really an option, for all of the text in the Civil 3D objects.
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Message 8 of 30 (2,591 Views)

Re: Civil 3D Label Styles Annotation Scale versus Vieport Scale

06-26-2009 11:21 AM in reply to: vilomar
Give this a shot:

On your Settings tab right-click the drawing name and go to Edit Drawing Settings.

On the first tab, Units and Zone, make sure your units are set to Feet (or Meters accordingly) and UNCHECK the box next to it, "Scale Objects Inserted from other drawings".

Go to paper space and regen.
*wfb
Message 9 of 30 (2,591 Views)

Re: Civil 3D Label Styles Annotation Scale versus Vieport Scale

06-26-2009 11:38 AM in reply to: vilomar

Perhaps we need your definition of " .
face="Times New Roman">prevent the text height changing with different viewport
scales".  To me this means that if you have a plotted sheet and the text is
0.10" high in the 1" =20' scale it is also 0.10" tall in the 1' =100' 
window.  This is the way Civil 3D labels work from layout to
layout.

 

Bill

 


style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
Bill,

This
is not really an option, for all of the text in the Civil 3D
objects.
*Joe Bouza
Message 10 of 30 (2,591 Views)

Re: Civil 3D Label Styles Annotation Scale versus Vieport Scale

06-26-2009 11:52 AM in reply to: vilomar
I did nothing special. I created and placed a single instance of that label
and showed it in 3 different scaled vports and civil3d maintaint the
plotted height of .08 as I defined. You cant get this to happen?

--
Thanks, Joe

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)
Civil 3D 2008
Win XP pro
v 2002, sp 2
hp workstation xw4600
Intel Core Duo CPU
E7200 @2.53 GHz
3 GB RAM
NIVDIA Quadro FX 1700 (512MB)
==============================
"All Contours are Lies! "-( AJ)
===========================
The mantra of a former Flamer:
If you are forced to eat an Elephant, don't complain about it; Take one bite
at a time.
*****************************************************************************************
In memory of the King of Work-arounds
"The only Constant is Change".

"The only thing worse than training your staff, and having them leave is -
not training your staff, and having them stay." :-o
A reminder taken from Graphics Solution Providers' Calendar page
*****************************************************************************************
"An Equal Opportunity Annoyer" (DK)
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