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Civil 3D 2015 Already Showing Signs

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Message 1 of 14
ToddRogers-WPM
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Civil 3D 2015 Already Showing Signs

So I installed C3D 2015 this morning and MAPOPTIONS will not display a dialog box.

 

CMDDIA = 1

FILEDIA =1

 

I also tried -MAPOPTIONS, +MAPOPTIONS and .MAPOPTIONS.

 

I even went to the CUI and there is nothing out of the ordinary.

 

I also went to the Planning and Analysis workspace and selected Map Options from the ribbon.

 

NOTHING WORKS!



Todd Rogers
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Message 2 of 14

Hi,

 

answered >>>here<<< (hopefully useful 😉 )

 

- alfred -

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Message 3 of 14
Message 4 of 14
Cadguru42
in reply to: ToddRogers-WPM

How do basic issues like this get past Autodesk on release? And what's even more sad is how bad the English is on the knowledge base article that gives the workaround.

C3D 2022-2024
Windows 10 Pro
32GB RAM
Message 5 of 14
Jeff_M
in reply to: Cadguru42

FWIW, my install went smoothly and the correct paths were added. I have seen no problems at all...yet.

Jeff_M, also a frequent Swamper
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neilyj666
in reply to: Cadguru42

They are too busy with Cloud/360 nonsense which looks good in the glossy brochures and presentations

BTW the author of the workaround is a native French speaker (I have spoken to him in the past and I think he is French and based in Switzerland) but he got the solution posted pretty quickly if you follow the link posted by Alfred above

neilyj (No connection with Autodesk other than using the products in the real world)
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Message 7 of 14
GTVic
in reply to: neilyj666

I had this problem with the release candidate and also for the one web-installed from the Civil 3D 2015 Product Trial web page. The full download version has just arrived so I haven't tried that one yet.

 

The solution works although you don't need to restart, just open a different drawing or start a new drawing to trigger the LISP/MNL reloading.

 

That support file search path is long.

Message 8 of 14
Jeff_M
in reply to: Jeff_M

I take that back, the path noted in the fix above was in fact missing. I misread the paths I did have.
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Message 9 of 14
GTVic
in reply to: Jeff_M

I think they had an issue in 2012 where some of the paths in the shipping product were actually invalid folder names. So this has been an issue before.

 

Time test with "C:\Program Files\...\UserDataCache" as the "Start in" folder (and "My Documents" folder being a network share):

Civil 3D 2013 start time: 35 seconds, Options dialog: 3 seconds

Civil 3D 2015 start time: 35 seconds, Options dialog: 3 seconds

 

Time test with valid writeable C: drive location as the "Start in" folder:

Civil 3D 2013 start time: 9 seconds, Options dialog: instantaneous

Civil 3D 2015 start time: 12 seconds, Options dialog: instantaneous

 

 

Message 10 of 14
GTVic
in reply to: GTVic

Other things I've found:

 

Trusted Location C:\Program Files\Common Files\Autodesk Shared\Extensions 2015 seems to be invalid

ACADVER reports 20 instead of the expected 19.2

Message 11 of 14
Alfred.NESWADBA
in reply to: GTVic

Hi,

 

>> ACADVER reports 20 instead of the expected 19.2

All AutoCAD 2015 based products have the internal release number 20.0, so that is correct.

 

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Message 12 of 14
GTVic
in reply to: GTVic

After my install the following folder doesn't seem to have the correct permissions. Depending on how you copy a survey database into the folder, you may not have write access to the file.

 

Survey Folder:

C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\C3D 2015\enu\Survey (has no "Everyone" group with full access)

Tool Catalogs folder:

C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\C3D 2015\enu\Tool Catalogs (has an "Everyone" group with full access)

 

 

Message 13 of 14
AllenJessup
in reply to: GTVic

Good catch. It's bad practice to rely on the Everyone group for permissions. Many IT Depts - like ours - automatically disable that group on all networked computers.

 

Allen



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 14 of 14
GTVic
in reply to: AllenJessup

We've had that issue also, we had to get permission to make folders under "C:\ProgramData\" writeable to solve application errors.

 

I see there is not much consistency under C:\ProgramData\Autodesk for security permissions for various folders and releases.

 

Microsoft designed C:\ProgramData as a location for common data and yet it is hard to get to and locked down so tightly by IT departments. PITA.

 

C:\ProgramData\Autodesk includes read/execute/special permissions for "Users". The special permissions include all 4 create/write permissions but those 4 don't propogate to the actual files. For my computer I've decided to give the Local Users group write access to C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\C3D 201x\ and everything underneath. Now the Figure Prefix databases are editable!

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