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Civil 3D 2014 S.P. 1.0 - Bug ? Material calculation

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wedzisi
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Civil 3D 2014 S.P. 1.0 - Bug ? Material calculation

Hello , we found some  mistake after ubgrading civil 3d to service pack 1.0 , in coridro section shows only one side material left or right and in table and in material list report is calculated only half section , also in sholder included only sholder material , plzz see screanshot for beter understanding

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Message 21 of 39
garrett_wynne
in reply to: michael

Sure, plus we have base structures that have superelevated properties differing from the paving.  Makes for fun modeling, but a wreck in quantities when you get only one side.

 

Basically, if C3D cannot give proper quantities why am I still using this?

Message 22 of 39
fcernst
in reply to: wedzisi

This was the first thing I wanted to test in 2015... It appears to be working again now in 2015 below with symmetrical Curb material being produced:

 

 

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Fred Ernst, PE
C3D 2024
Ernst Engineering
www.ernstengineering.com
Message 23 of 39
nikoue
in reply to: fcernst

i have check a project in 2015 and still find the material issue

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Message 24 of 39
fcernst
in reply to: nikoue

Really? What specifically?

 

I also checked Pave for 2 - 12" symmetrical lanes, it gave the correct areas.

 

Then I made one of those lanes 20' wide and kept the other at 12', and the total area updated correctly.

 

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Fred Ernst, PE
C3D 2024
Ernst Engineering
www.ernstengineering.com
Message 25 of 39
nikoue
in reply to: fcernst

i take only the half areas that i take from civil 3d 2013 which gives the correct results

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Message 26 of 39
fcernst
in reply to: nikoue

Interesting. Can you share that Corridor?



Fred Ernst, PE
C3D 2024
Ernst Engineering
www.ernstengineering.com
Message 27 of 39
nikoue
in reply to: garrett_wynne

ok

https://copy.com/G2nyTOZMKgBP4Rcb

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Message 28 of 39
raptorsi
in reply to: wedzisi

Hello, wedsizi.

 

I see you made section view like i want to have. Please, can you send me that cross section in cad form. I use civil 2011.

Regards. 

Message 29 of 39
fcernst
in reply to: nikoue

Getting this issue....

 

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Fred Ernst, PE
C3D 2024
Ernst Engineering
www.ernstengineering.com
Message 30 of 39
nikoue
in reply to: fcernst

I have use custom subassemblies. Load them into civil 3d after close and restart civil 3d and you will resolve that problem.

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Message 31 of 39
fcernst
in reply to: garrett_wynne

You are modeling the road using two Baselines for the centerline, and half-road assemblies. 

 

When I make a Full assembly out of your two half assemblies, and use one Baseline for centerline, it works (red solid hatch are the two Materials I chose).

 

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Fred Ernst, PE
C3D 2024
Ernst Engineering
www.ernstengineering.com
Message 32 of 39
nikoue
in reply to: fcernst

Can you send me back the model with one baseline?

But if it works with one baseline it’s not a solution.

If you open the same model with two baselines with civil 3d 2013 and rebuilt the corridor, the materials are correct.

And it’s easier for me in such a project to work with two or more baselines.

As models became complex more baseline needed to handle them.

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Message 33 of 39
fcernst
in reply to: nikoue

 

We can agree to disagree on that.... This road model would be a lot easier to deal with by using one assembly with targets.

 

 

 



Fred Ernst, PE
C3D 2024
Ernst Engineering
www.ernstengineering.com
Message 34 of 39
nikoue
in reply to: fcernst

OK but the fact is that with two baseline the program dont work correct.

Civil 3d 2013 and 2014 without sp1 have not this problem.

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Message 35 of 39
fcernst
in reply to: nikoue

Civil 3d 2013 and 2014 without sp1 have not this problem.

 


Yes, I can confirm that for 2013 now. I don't want to uninstall SP1 on 2014 to test this though.



Fred Ernst, PE
C3D 2024
Ernst Engineering
www.ernstengineering.com
Message 36 of 39
nikoue
in reply to: fcernst

its a known issue for 2014 sp1.

I don't understand how autodesk people think.

Its a huge bug

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Message 37 of 39
pault34
in reply to: fcernst

Thought maybe, why fix previous versions when 2015 is out for download. Anyone check 2015 corridor behavior? I haven't searched for 2015 bugs just yet.

Message 38 of 39
vcoleman
in reply to: pault34

Is this going to be fixed.  Any idea what to do until they fix this problem besides upgrading to civil 3d 2015.

Message 39 of 39
Jay_B
in reply to: vcoleman

FYI,

 

This issue has been resolved with the release of 2014 Service Pack 2.

 

Readme file

 

 

C3D 2018.1
C3D 2016 SP4

Win 7 Professional 64 Bit

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