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cadtex
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Civil 3D 2013 Pipe Network Plan View Dragged Label Leader Origin Gap

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05-22-2013 03:05 PM

I am currently running Civil 3D 2013 and have run into this dragged state leader origin gap issue when labeling structures in plan view. The label was done using a pipe network label to label a structure. It seems to only do it while labeling pipe network stuctures. There is an annoying separation between the leader arrowhead and the point of origin where the arrow head is actually supposed to be pointing at. As you can see in the attached image, the leader head is not at the origin (center of the inlet in this case) eventhough the station value within the label has the correct callout. Does anyone know how to make the arrowhead point to the origin? I have looked through the label styles and label settings but cannot find a solution to my issue.

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troma
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Re: Civil 3D 2013 Pipe Network Plan View Dragged Label Leader Origin Gap

05-23-2013 07:44 AM in reply to: cadtex
I've seen something similar with cogo points. Never looked into it though.


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dmartin
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Message 3 of 11 (945 Views)

Re: Civil 3D 2013 Pipe Network Plan View Dragged Label Leader Origin Gap

05-23-2013 09:09 AM in reply to: troma

If it is like the COGO issue, autocad draws an imaginary bounding box around the block being used. The leader attaches to the box so if you can make the leader attach to a quadrant there is no gap, and at 45 degrees it is the greatest gap.

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Dave

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troma
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Re: Civil 3D 2013 Pipe Network Plan View Dragged Label Leader Origin Gap

05-23-2013 09:11 AM in reply to: dmartin
Can you explain a little more please? How do you make it attach to a quadrant? Thanks.


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dmartin
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Re: Civil 3D 2013 Pipe Network Plan View Dragged Label Leader Origin Gap

05-23-2013 09:23 AM in reply to: troma

By Quadrants, i just ment the four quadrants of a circle.

The cyan circle is your block.

The red square is the imaginary bounding box

If the leader is conected at 0,90,180,270 then there is no gap.

Any other ang provides some gap

 

With cogo points you have the option for the leader to attach the the block, aka bounding box, or to the point itself. I did not see a quick way to change the leader to the center of the circle.

 

Sorry its not the perfect answer.

 

 

.Bounding Box.png

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troma
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Re: Civil 3D 2013 Pipe Network Plan View Dragged Label Leader Origin Gap

05-23-2013 10:13 AM in reply to: dmartin

dmartin wrote: 

...

With cogo points you have the option for the leader to attach the the block, aka bounding box, or to the point itself. I did not see a quick way to change the leader to the center of the circle.

 

Sorry its not the perfect answer.

 

 


What is the difference between attaching to the point, or the centre of the circle?  I would have thought that they were the same thing.  What result do you see if you attach to the point?

 

I'm not sure if any of this is going to help the OP, but there might be similarities from the cogo point leader to the structure leader.


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dmartin
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Re: Civil 3D 2013 Pipe Network Plan View Dragged Label Leader Origin Gap

05-23-2013 10:19 AM in reply to: troma

Point Leader.png

 

If leader stops at marker is yes, it is the bounding box.

If leader stops at marker, it would go to the insert point of the block or the center of the "X" depending on the style of point selected.

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Dave

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cadtex
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Message 8 of 11 (911 Views)

Re: Civil 3D 2013 Pipe Network Plan View Dragged Label Leader Origin Gap

05-23-2013 11:04 AM in reply to: dmartin

Thank you guys for posting. Yes the COGO point issue is resolved through the point style "Leader stops at marker toggle", but I have yet to find something similar for the labeling of pipe network structures in plan view. Anyone have an answer?

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RobR88
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Re: Civil 3D 2013 Pipe Network Plan View Dragged Label Leader Origin Gap

04-11-2014 08:25 AM in reply to: cadtex

I also need this answer....

 

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RobR88
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Re: Civil 3D 2013 Pipe Network Plan View Dragged Label Leader Origin Gap

04-11-2014 08:37 AM in reply to: RobR88

I just noticed....  My Pipe networks are data referenced into a main printable drawing which is where the labels have been added.  Even though my references we already up to date, I re-sycronized them and the issue went away.  You may want to try syncronizing or refreshing your networks while viewing the drawing though your viewports...  Sorry I don't have time to fully test this theory now, but will sometime when my workload lightens up...

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