Can't update surface, On a locked layer?

[rhdins]

I have a surface that I want to edit.  It is telling me I can't because it's on a locked layer.  The problem is, none of the layers are locked.  The surface isn't object locked, the point group isn't locked.  It's saying some of my survey figures are on a locked layer, I have a feeling that those are the problem, but aside from unlocking all the layers in the drawing, I can't think of anything else to change.  I can not figure out what the deal is with this surface...  Any help would be much appreciated.

[doni49]

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@rhdins wrote:

.......none of the layers are locked.

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and

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@rhdins wrote:

....but aside from unlocking all the layers in the drawing....

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 If "none of the layers are locked", then why are you concerned about "unlocking all the layers in the drawing"?

[rhdins]

All the layers are unlocked, yet it still tells me that the surface is on a locked layer.

[AllenJessup]

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@rhdins wrote:

... but aside from unlocking all the layers in the drawing, I can't think of anything else to change.  I can not figure out what the deal is with this surface...  

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That tells me you do have locked layers in your drawing. Is Layer 0 one of them?

Allen Jessup

[rhdins]

If there is some other way to unlock layers besides clicking on the "lock" icon in the layer manager, then maybe.  But otherwise, they are all unlocked.  I made sure every single layer was unlocked and still get the "object is on locked layer" message.  It tells me this for my survey figures too.

[doni49]

If we're truly going to be able to help you, then we're going to need to see your dwg file.

[IanMcClain]

Is there anything else that may complicate the surface? Was it pasted,data-shortcutted, copied, etc? Are you trying to add elements to the definition or just rebuild it?

[AllenJessup]

If it doesn't appear in the Layer Manager there shouldn't be a locked layer. You can try the command line -Layer, Unlock, * .

Allen

[rhdins]

I have survey figures in the drawing that I am using as breaklines.  If those lose the connection to the survey database, would that cause this problem?

I have some new survey points that I want to add to the surface.  The surface won't rebuild because it says it's on a locked layer.  That's the problem I'm having.

Here is the surface,

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20051252/PG0011202_New%20Surface.dwg

[doni49]

I'm going to have to leave this for someone else.  I can't open the file as I'm on C3D 2012.

[IanMcClain]

I can't open it either (running 2012). Have you tried an audit?

[Jeff_M]

All of the layers in this drawing are locked, not unlocked. Unlocking them allows me to edit the surface without any problem.

[wfberry]

It may have gone through the twilight zone but when I opened the file ALL the layers were locked.  I unlocked all and I was able to remove a breakline or two and it rebuilt.

Bill

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[rhdins]

Obviously I've got something weird going on.  I downloaded my file and opened that, it showed all the layers as locked for a split second, then they all switched to unlocked.  But the drawing still treats everything as if it's locked!

Do I have something set wrong somewhere??

Here is a screen grab, showing my layers unlocked, and that the surface is locked. (the little thing by my cursor is the lock symbol)

[doni49]

Your image shows that they're LOCKED.

This is what the layer dialog will look like if the layer is unlocked.

[AllenJessup]

Your screenshot shows all the layers as Locked. Yellow + closed padlock = locked. Blue plus open padlock = unlocked.

Allen

[rhdins]

I wish I had a better excuse than just being dumb...

In my hurry I was thinking, yellow on, blue off, ugh.  Thanks for the help though.  It will keep you guys sharp!

[ali5900337]

Simply because you are inside a block through "edit block in place "command

[narce2]

Another solution is to select the surface, go to Surface Properties, Information tab, and then make sure to uncheck the "Object Locked" box.  (See attached image)