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Calculating excavations

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Anonymous
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Calculating excavations

Hi, so the thing is that i have to make vertical plan of the football stadium (heights plan). I have existing ground, i have subgrade. So if i calculate earthworks its gonna be fine. But i need, to excavate existing soil, subground, asphalt and all that stuff is in different places. I tried like raise lower surface, but its only for like one place, if the excavations is in few, i cant do anything. So maybe u have some advices how to make that. Thanks in advance. 

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jmayo-EE
in reply to: Anonymous

Create a dynamic subgrade (see link below) for exisitng conditions and another for proposed (you have this already) and then compute the volume of these two. The stripped EG and the proposed subgrade.

 

http://au.autodesk.com/au-online/classes-on-demand/class-catalog/2011/autocad-civil-3d/islands-in-th...

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doni49
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Also have a look at this as it seems to be pretty similar to what you've described.

 

http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/autocad-civil-3d-general/large-paving-area/m-p/5307883#M259118



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neilyj666
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http://forums.autodesk.com/autodesk/attachments/autodesk/66/245206/1/cdieziger@gmail.com

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Joe-Bouza
in reply to: neilyj666

I really like this technique but the upfront overhead makes me wonder. If you want it for sections and profiles great but to go to that effort for net earth work calcs? If you have the area polygons  you have the volume of the subgrade and your done: increase the fg vs eg cut value for the net earth work. I've been showing this picture for years, and now we can do it in civil3d. thats great, but a lot of work. See (-F)=(C) therefore everything below fg increases cut regardless.

 

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Anonymous
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But if my excavations is not only different places, but i need to take out different layers of it ?

Message 7 of 10
neilyj666
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Yes it is a lot of upfront work and Civil should be able to compute this with ease (another package that I use has no difficulty with this sort of calc).

 

Whilst your method work for the total net cut/fill, more often than not I need to know the location of the cut and fill in order to devise an earthworks strategy (e.g, mass haul) and identify constraints in moving muck from the cut area to the fill area.

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jmayo-EE
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Opps

 

Wrong link.... Neil posted the correct link.

 

Here's the front page for the AU class.

 

http://au.autodesk.com/au-online/classes-on-demand/class-catalog/2013/infrastructure-design-suite/ci...

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Joe-Bouza
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I said net Earth work. if you need individual number (why) then maybe you need to do that, but if your goal is to get a net impor or export to the site it is irrelivant.

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Joe-Bouza
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I concur.

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