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@thepworth wrote:Better question - when will 2013 Service Pack 1 be out - that's when I might start looking at it 😉
Most likely some time after 2013 comes out, but that's just a guess... 
I've just got 2012 set up the way I like it.......why don't they release C3D2013 as Service Pack 2 for C3D 2012 rather than a new version.....and I'll bet the dwg version has changed (based on the 3 year cycle) so more compatibility issues....the vicious circle just grows and grows....
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they have released info on Autocad 2013 nothing on Civil 3d 2013 yet: http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/AutoCAD-2012/Autocad-2013/td-p/3345301
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The file format has changed every 3 releases for a long time now (24+ years?) so don't count on that changing anytime soon. From what I recall being told by our reseller back in the late 80's, the biggest reason was to prevent reverse engineering efforts by competitors. Another was to be able to take advantage of newer hardware.
@Jeff_M wrote:Another was to be able to take advantage of newer hardware.
You mean like multi-core processors?
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I knew the time would come where they would start messing with the command line. Probably managed to break that finally! The one thing that's remained fairly constant over the years.
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The Command Line "enhancements" look like the most interesting thing about the 2013 vanilla ACAD release.....or the latest 2012 service pack as it's unofficially known..
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There's supposedly an old Chinese curse. "May you live in interesting times."
I'm not against progress. I add my wishes to the list. Strike-through text was one of them. But I've been relying on the command line for years and don't want to see it broken just for some new flashy GUI.
It may be a useful improvement. I won't know until I've used it. Since we're still on 2011 it may be a while.
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@Anonymous wrote:my wish is for them to make it more stable.
Yep....that'd be a good one.....I suspect that won't be happening any time soon
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Being an "attitude is everything guy"...
I look forward to giving it a test drive in a few months. Yes, Autodesk changes file formats every 3 years but the only constant in life is change. If you are a CAD manager, this should be one of the challenges you look forward to. Adapting your system to incorporate new (usually better) tools is what put most of us in the position we are in.
Will it all work? No, but neither do all of us all the time!
Patience and understanding. It will have glitches. You may want to wait until 2014 SP1 (if you can) when they really work all the kinks out (like a car, the 1st model year tends to be a little rough around the edges). But don't throw this one out yet.
I still find it fascinating that so many of you have already judged the software when you have absolutely no info on it. If you say it won't work now, you and your ego will find a way to make it not work when it comes out in an effort to make yourself look like a prophet of some sort. Well, frankly my company wants "profits", not "prophets" and attitude helps dictate that.
My 2 cents...
@TonyLeggieri3279 wrote:Being an "attitude is everything guy"...
I look forward to giving it a test drive in a few months. Yes, Autodesk changes file formats every 3 years but the only constant in life is change. If you are a CAD manager, this should be one of the challenges you look forward to. Adapting your system to incorporate new (usually better) tools is what put most of us in the position we are in.
Will it all work? No, but neither do all of us all the time!
Patience and understanding. It will have glitches. You may want to wait until 2014 SP1 (if you can) when they really work all the kinks out (like a car, the 1st model year tends to be a little rough around the edges). But don't throw this one out yet.
I still find it fascinating that so many of you have already judged the software when you have absolutely no info on it. If you say it won't work now, you and your ego will find a way to make it not work when it comes out in an effort to make yourself look like a prophet of some sort. Well, frankly my company wants "profits", not "prophets" and attitude helps dictate that.
My 2 cents...
Based on past experience with new releases of Autodesk software - they broke the DRIVE command after SP1 came out and it still isn't fixed.....
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