My company has not begun to upgrade to C3D 2012 from C3D 2011 yet. I am usually the first person to suggest an upgrade, but now work in a company where 50+ people use Civil 3D and I don't want to suggest using it unless I am sure it currently works properly. What are your thoughts on 2012? Is it better than 2011 and currently stable? Are there any show stopping bugs in it right now? Thanks.
I've added a link to our list of new features for Civil 3D 2012. We've very excited about this release and the enhancements that we've added (and not just because we work for Autodesk).
Thanks for the reply Peter, I already have read about what 2012 can do and want to start using it. However, nothing against AutoDesk, but often the first time software is released and not just by AutoDesk there are bugs and some times those bugs are serious. That is what I want to know about.
I noticed that my original messages was called "C3D 2012 vs. C3D 2012" it should have been "C3D 2012 vs. C3D 2011" but I can't figure out how to edit it.
The stance at our company is we don't usually install new versions of CAD/Civil3D until at least after Service Pack 1. I install the newest version right away and work with it and note any bugs that arise. I will also pick 1 or 2 isolated users to be my guinea pigs as well. But we have just over 40 users, so I know where you are coming from.
SP1 usually comes out about July/August and we do our upgrades over Labor Day weekend to minimize downtime. That gives us basically 4 months to figure out if the version is a lemon (which, of course, Peter will tell you those don't exist! ). This also gives us ways to figure out if we need to modify our standards and to plan in-house training before it even gets to the user's desk.
Unfortunately, there is no 100% way to guarantee that all of the bugs will be found by the time installation comes around, simply because of different user habits. The best part is that with the new license manger allowing you to have multiple versions, you can now plan a more realistic transitional period if you choose.
My 2 cents...I, too, am curious to see what others think.
The software has been out only for a very short time. Not enough time to generate any grievences, at least none that I've seen. You're going to need to monitor this group and see, or ask again in a month or so.
So this is my third try. The recommended browser by cad is having problems. New IE.
I installed 2012 this morning and am promptly uninstalling and going back to 2011. Laggy to the point of unusable and its not because I don't have an adequate machine or new drivers or anything like that. 2012 was NOT ready for release.
Note the properties box has been laggy for a couple of releases due to slow retrieval of information, nothing new.
Ill try to post something more substantial when my blood pressure drops.
Have you submitted a support request with details about the nature of the lag or had your reseller or another non-partisan user test your data? I have not experienced anything close to laggy to the point of unusable.
Thanks for the reply Matt. Coincidetly we've met while working over on Vancouver Isalnd. The site I am working on is 220ha so there is alot of info to push the limits. On smaller files created with C3D2011 it seemed ok, but when getting onto the larger files (surfaces and master planning) there was some failure. So here's what I did since my last post. I took the drawings that were originally created with c3d 2011 and a few from LDD2009 (that had been used for months in C3D 2011 without incident) and wblocked the entire drawing. Voila, the drawings are now smooth as silk. Dont know whats going on there but it has worked.