C3D 2009 goes POOF!

[Anonymous]

I have been trying to open some legacy Land Desktop 2004 drawings in C3D
2009. When I try to view layout tabs, Civil3D closes without warning. I have
tried Recover and Audit with no errors and the same results. The drawings
open fine in Land Desktop 2004. This has happened on a couple of drawing
files so far.

[Anonymous]

More to the story. Audit in C3D 2009 does not find any errors even after
several runs. Audit in LDT 2004 finds 8 errors, then 24 errors on the second
pass and cannot repair it so there is a problem in one of the XREF's. This
may account for the crashing in the other drawings as well. What is
troubling is C3D is not detecting the errors at all. Is there a difference
in how C3D handles XREF's that may be the reason?



"neilw" wrote in message
news:5915423@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have been trying to open some legacy Land Desktop 2004 drawings in C3D
2009. When I try to view layout tabs, Civil3D closes without warning. I have
tried Recover and Audit with no errors and the same results. The drawings
open fine in Land Desktop 2004. This has happened on a couple of drawing
files so far.

[Anonymous]

I found the offending file and repaired it. I opened it in LDT 2004 and
Audit runs clean. I then starting stepping through the layout tabs and after
about 4 tabs ACAD crashes with a runtime error and then leaves the message
shown in the attached screen cap. I am suspecting the problem is a memory
issue as it seems the viewport cache is over loading and crashing ACAD.
There is no one layout tab that crashes it. I can pick them in any order and
they load fine until about the 4th tab where it crashes. Civil 3D takes much
longer to load the layouts and it crashes on the 1st or 2nd tab that I pick.
I think it is using more memory which is causing it to crash sooner.

I'm running a new Dell Precision 490 Workstation with Dual Xeon 5110's, 3GB
Ram, Nvidia Quadro FX 3400 video with 256 MB, Win XP Pro SP2.

"neilw" wrote in message
news:5915451@discussion.autodesk.com...
More to the story. Audit in C3D 2009 does not find any errors even after
several runs. Audit in LDT 2004 finds 8 errors, then 24 errors on the second
pass and cannot repair it so there is a problem in one of the XREF's. This
may account for the crashing in the other drawings as well. What is
troubling is C3D is not detecting the errors at all. Is there a difference
in how C3D handles XREF's that may be the reason?



"neilw" wrote in message
news:5915423@discussion.autodesk.com...
I have been trying to open some legacy Land Desktop 2004 drawings in C3D
2009. When I try to view layout tabs, Civil3D closes without warning. I have
tried Recover and Audit with no errors and the same results. The drawings
open fine in Land Desktop 2004. This has happened on a couple of drawing
files so far.

[haroldpei1218]

How's your system set up? Are you storing on a server and running off of there? Are you running on C:\?
How long is the name in the file path?

[Anonymous]

Stand alone install on C. Files are accessed from a server.

Here is the path.

S:\land projects 2004 Engineering\06-0102CS Highland\DWG\Grading Plans\Upper
Highlands\Release 2

wrote in message news:5915695@discussion.autodesk.com...
How's your system set up? Are you storing on a server and running off of
there? Are you running on C:\?
How long is the name in the file path?

[Anonymous]

i had a similar problem when i installed 08 and if i remember correctly i changed the "layout regen options" to 'regen when switching layouts' and it solved the problem. it's on the system tab of the options

[Anonymous]

I really don't care but did you know there's a 2009 Discussion Group? Since I wouldn't dream of
implementing the new version till after a Service Pack I do find it informative to see your
issues... you just might find more answers "over there" with the bravehearts!

Happy Modeling,

JD

[Anonymous]

neilw,

I'm sorry, the 2009 newsgroup is for Vanilla AutoCAD... my terrible!

Open mouth, insert foot (US Survey),

JD

[bookerT]

JD,
You back from vacation? It was nice an quiet with no need for me to use my scroll wheel while you were gone.
Booker

[Anonymous]

Ahhh yeah... feel the love!

I'd hate for your scroll wheel to get goobered-up with lint. ;-}

Have fun,

JD

[Anonymous]

I'm the Cad Manager so I'm the point man on new releases and this is just a
preliminary evaluation. I know there have been problems in this regard in
previous releases so I was hoping some of these issues would have been
resolved in this release. It is troubling that C3D didn't detect the corrupt
file. It makes me wonder how much that may be contributing to instability
issues.

It is good for all of us to know about problems and hopefully solutions.

"jdavis417" wrote in message
news:5915934@discussion.autodesk.com...
I really don't care but did you know there's a 2009 Discussion Group? Since
I wouldn't dream of
implementing the new version till after a Service Pack I do find it
informative to see your
issues... you just might find more answers "over there" with the
bravehearts!

Happy Modeling,

JD

[Anonymous]

It just goes to show that no amount of "Beta testing" can foresee all issues. Early adopters and
"real-life" users like you are invaluable to us all (including AutoDesk). I'll say again that
you're a good Community citizen for keeping us aware of what you find!

Thanks,

JD

P.S. As BookerT alluded to, if I could be on vacation, it would be this and next weekend at the New
Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival. I lament every year I miss it! Check http://www.nojazzfest.com/
for audio and pictures of previous events. May 3rd and 4th there'll be a live webcast offered as
langaipe ("a little something extra"). Simply the best entertainment value in the country!

[SPINNY5008]

I did read a blog that said the civil 3d 2009 audit does a more thurough check?

I really need help on the LDT2004 side, we installed civil 3d 2009 and it has trashed 2004, LDT will not run, any thing you may have done different to get them both to work?

[tmullins]

>>It just goes to show that no amount of "Beta testing" can foresee all issues.


That statement I would agree with however, I hardly consider switching layout tabs an issue that involved a lot of beta testing to realize there was a problem with it.

[Anonymous]

I didn't have any problems with LDT2004 after installing C3D2009. I would
dio a repair of LDT2004 first.
wrote in message news:5975885@discussion.autodesk.com...
I did read a blog that said the civil 3d 2009 audit does a more thurough
check?

I really need help on the LDT2004 side, we installed civil 3d 2009 and it
has trashed 2004, LDT will not run, any thing you may have done different to
get them both to work?