Best Practices - Multiple Sites

[rgraham764]

Hi all,

I'm in need of opinions. I'm setting up my styles (in between crashes - but
that's another story). How do you handle road ROW, easements, setback lines,
etc. on your drawing?

My thought process is (and after consulting with someone else, but want some
more opnions) that I create multiple sites - one for easements, one for BSL,
one ROW, Existing boundary, etc. This way the lines won't try to converge
with my proposed parcels. I'm finding that I have to break out my easement
site into easement- san, easement-storm, easement-bufferyard, etc. as we
have overlapping boundaries. I want the default template to be very
straight-forward for my users.

One problem I see with the multiple sites is that I have to really use
draworder to get one site above or below another site so it shows up
correctly, especially in the case of the easements as there are associated
hatches for each kind of easement.

Is this how the majority of you are handling this? Any insights of better
ways of approaching this?

Thanks in advance.

Rick

[JermVent]

Rick,

IMO, I use two sites. One site strictly for Parcels, then the other site is used for pretty much everything thing else. (i.e. Alignments, ROW, sewer, BSL, etc.) When handling Parcels, I just create layers for the ROW, BSL lines, etc. and offset those lines from my Parcels directly into those layers. Seems to work fine & I don't have to worry with bringing items to the front.

On the other hand, if I have different Phases of an area, I will create multiple Parcel Sites. (i.e. one for Phase 1, another for Phase 2, etc..)

Managing Sites:
"Parcel linework, grading objects, and alignments can only belong to one unique site and do not interact with objects in a different site."

I hope this helps!

[Anonymous]

I usually have a handful:

Boundary (intact boundary)
Roads+Lots (the "subdivision")
Sanitary Sewers (alignments for pipe runs)
Storm Sewers (alignments for pipe runs)
Stormwater Management (parcels for subcatchments, alignments for TC path)
Grading (all my grading objects)
BRL and Easement (for misc things I want to take advantage of semi-automatic
labeling, etc but not interact with real subdivision)


At the very least you have to separate sites for alignments that shouldn't
interact. a big cause of drawing problems is notoriously your road
centerline, san sewer and storm alignments fighting for topology. those
MUST be separated by site (or split into different drawings)

--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
CADapult Ltd
Empowering Design With Innovative Solutions
www.cadapult.net
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wrote in message news:5213612@discussion.autodesk.com...
Rick,

IMO, I use two sites. One site strictly for Parcels, then the other site is
used for pretty much everything thing else. (i.e. Alignments, ROW, sewer,
BSL, etc.) When handling Parcels, I just create layers for the ROW, BSL
lines, etc. and offset those lines from my Parcels directly into those
layers. Seems to work fine & I don't have to worry with bringing items to
the front.

On the other hand, if I have different Phases of an area, I will create
multiple Parcel Sites. (i.e. one for Phase 1, another for Phase 2, etc..)

Managing Sites:
"Parcel linework, grading objects, and alignments can only belong to one
unique site and do not interact with objects in a different site."

I hope this helps!

[Anonymous]

Dana,

Since I am still just trying to figure out best practices, I have a few
questions.

Is "parcels for subcatchments" the same as post development watershed
boundaries?
Why do you do an alignment for Tc path?
What do you mean by "fighting for topology"?

and in general, could you explain the advantages of so many sites?(other
then the already noted stability issues) and are there any disadvantages of
objects being on separate sites?

Thanks for any info,

Dale

"Dana Breig Probert" wrote in message
news:5213693@discussion.autodesk.com...
I usually have a handful:

Boundary (intact boundary)
Roads+Lots (the "subdivision")
Sanitary Sewers (alignments for pipe runs)
Storm Sewers (alignments for pipe runs)
Stormwater Management (parcels for subcatchments, alignments for TC path)
Grading (all my grading objects)
BRL and Easement (for misc things I want to take advantage of semi-automatic
labeling, etc but not interact with real subdivision)


At the very least you have to separate sites for alignments that shouldn't
interact. a big cause of drawing problems is notoriously your road
centerline, san sewer and storm alignments fighting for topology. those
MUST be separated by site (or split into different drawings)

--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
CADapult Ltd
Empowering Design With Innovative Solutions
www.cadapult.net
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wrote in message news:5213612@discussion.autodesk.com...
Rick,

IMO, I use two sites. One site strictly for Parcels, then the other site is
used for pretty much everything thing else. (i.e. Alignments, ROW, sewer,
BSL, etc.) When handling Parcels, I just create layers for the ROW, BSL
lines, etc. and offset those lines from my Parcels directly into those
layers. Seems to work fine & I don't have to worry with bringing items to
the front.

On the other hand, if I have different Phases of an area, I will create
multiple Parcel Sites. (i.e. one for Phase 1, another for Phase 2, etc..)

Managing Sites:
"Parcel linework, grading objects, and alignments can only belong to one
unique site and do not interact with objects in a different site."

I hope this helps!

[Anonymous]

I will write a blog post on it tonight. Right now, gotta take some screen
captures until the heels of my hands bleed for an implemenation project.

Dana

--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
CADapult Ltd
Empowering Design With Innovative Solutions
www.cadapult.net
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"dMiller" wrote in message
news:5214094@discussion.autodesk.com...
Dana,

Since I am still just trying to figure out best practices, I have a few
questions.

Is "parcels for subcatchments" the same as post development watershed
boundaries?
Why do you do an alignment for Tc path?
What do you mean by "fighting for topology"?

and in general, could you explain the advantages of so many sites?(other
then the already noted stability issues) and are there any disadvantages of
objects being on separate sites?

Thanks for any info,

Dale

"Dana Breig Probert" wrote in message
news:5213693@discussion.autodesk.com...
I usually have a handful:

Boundary (intact boundary)
Roads+Lots (the "subdivision")
Sanitary Sewers (alignments for pipe runs)
Storm Sewers (alignments for pipe runs)
Stormwater Management (parcels for subcatchments, alignments for TC path)
Grading (all my grading objects)
BRL and Easement (for misc things I want to take advantage of semi-automatic
labeling, etc but not interact with real subdivision)


At the very least you have to separate sites for alignments that shouldn't
interact. a big cause of drawing problems is notoriously your road
centerline, san sewer and storm alignments fighting for topology. those
MUST be separated by site (or split into different drawings)

--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
CADapult Ltd
Empowering Design With Innovative Solutions
www.cadapult.net
----------------------------------------------
wrote in message news:5213612@discussion.autodesk.com...
Rick,

IMO, I use two sites. One site strictly for Parcels, then the other site is
used for pretty much everything thing else. (i.e. Alignments, ROW, sewer,
BSL, etc.) When handling Parcels, I just create layers for the ROW, BSL
lines, etc. and offset those lines from my Parcels directly into those
layers. Seems to work fine & I don't have to worry with bringing items to
the front.

On the other hand, if I have different Phases of an area, I will create
multiple Parcel Sites. (i.e. one for Phase 1, another for Phase 2, etc..)

Managing Sites:
"Parcel linework, grading objects, and alignments can only belong to one
unique site and do not interact with objects in a different site."

I hope this helps!

[Anonymous]

I put something up on my blog that might help explain things.

--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
CADapult Ltd
Empowering Design With Innovative Solutions
www.cadapult.net
----------------------------------------------
"dMiller" wrote in message
news:5214094@discussion.autodesk.com...
Dana,

Since I am still just trying to figure out best practices, I have a few
questions.

Is "parcels for subcatchments" the same as post development watershed
boundaries?
Why do you do an alignment for Tc path?
What do you mean by "fighting for topology"?

and in general, could you explain the advantages of so many sites?(other
then the already noted stability issues) and are there any disadvantages of
objects being on separate sites?

Thanks for any info,

Dale

[Anonymous]

Thanks Dana, very informative... and you are right, they really do not
emphasize the importance of sites in standard training classes.

Dale

"Dana Breig Probert" wrote in message
news:5214793@discussion.autodesk.com...
I put something up on my blog that might help explain things.

--
Dana Breig Probert
http://civil3drocks.blogspot.com/
CADapult Ltd
Empowering Design With Innovative Solutions
www.cadapult.net
----------------------------------------------
"dMiller" wrote in message
news:5214094@discussion.autodesk.com...
Dana,

Since I am still just trying to figure out best practices, I have a few
questions.

Is "parcels for subcatchments" the same as post development watershed
boundaries?
Why do you do an alignment for Tc path?
What do you mean by "fighting for topology"?

and in general, could you explain the advantages of so many sites?(other
then the already noted stability issues) and are there any disadvantages of
objects being on separate sites?

Thanks for any info,

Dale