I'm getting ready to install AutoCAD Civil 3D on my computer and I like using the AutoCAD classic toolbars instead of the newer ribbon. Does AutoCAD 2012 still have the classic toolbar that you can switch to?
Why not just use the "menubar" in addition to the Ribbon. You will miss out on commands that are only available in the Ribbon.
Fully agree, if you are not using the ribbon you will miss out on newer C3D commands (unless you somehow memorize every C3D command).
If you don't like the screen space of the ribbon it can be minimized where it takes up the same amount of room as a menu.
It does. But as the others did I recommend you leave the Ribbon open but minimizes. I was never a fan and get around it by creating ToolPaletts for different tasks. You can add any Civil 3D command you want to a ToolPalette.
The thing I do like about the Ribbon is that it is context sensitive. That means that if you select a Civil 3D object. It will automatically open a Ribbon tab with object specific commands. If you select a Featureline the tab will contain command specific to Featurelines. Likewise Surfaces, Corridors, Profiles etc.
If I understand your original question you are looking to add the toolbars but not replace the ribbons. On the View tab, at the far right hand end, is a toolbar button. First click toolbar, then choose the category and the specific toolbar to turn on. You can place them where ever you wish.
Continue to use the Ribbon for new commands you may find that it is easier to use than some of the toolbars.
I'm with you. A person has certain tools that he uses all of the time. These tools take up the same space or less space than the ribbon. The ribbon often requires the operator to "click" three times to execute a command whereas the toolbar requires just one click. With Civil 3D 2013, practices are going back to toolbars.
The key to the Ribbon is its contextual nature. In the past the menu system has been verb - noun, where you find the command and the pick the object that you want to use that command on. If you work this way, then the ribbon is just a big tool bar that you have to wade through to find you commands.
But that's not how it is designed to work. If you select the object first the ribbon will change and present the commands that you can do on that object. For me this is the beauty of the ribbon. I never have learned where any of the commands are in the ribbon, because I know that after I select an object and look up at the ribbon, the commands that I need will be waiting for me.
Thanks for the comments Peter. I wish the bug described below would get fixed in the first SP for 2013 though. It currently makes the contextual ribbon a pain to use. Why would getting something simple like this be shelved until the next release?
Other than civil3d commands what tool bars do you miss so much?