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3D Face - Solid

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Message 1 of 21
S_G_I
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3D Face - Solid

Hello,

I want to show the topography of the surface I created.

A long time ago I changed some definitions and succeeded - see the attached picture.

The problem is I don't remember what I did 😞

I think last time I found a button somewhere to switch to 3D view/model and then

the 3D Faces were suddenly displayed as semi-solids.

 

Could somebody please help me?

 

Thanks a lot,

S_G_I

 

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Message 2 of 21
antoniovinci
in reply to: S_G_I

There are many ways to get that, for instance:

 

_-VIEW => _NEISO

_SHADEMODE and choose one of the types 

Message 3 of 21
neilyj666
in reply to: S_G_I

Take a look at this blog post http://civilforautocad.blogspot.co.uk/2011/05/civil-3d-2012-little-things-part-two.html

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Message 4 of 21
AllenJessup
in reply to: S_G_I

First you have to have a Surface Style that displays triangles in the Model. From your image it looks like you'd want to set a Conceptual visual style. Then use 3D orbit or any other method of viewing it in 3D.



Allen Jessup
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Message 5 of 21
antoniovinci
in reply to: AllenJessup


AllenJessup wrote:

First you have to have a Surface Style that displays triangles in the Mode


Dear Allen,
you don't really need to do that.

Whatever the style, when you turn on a ISO view, Autocad shows itself in a TIN fashion, as you can see in this Map2006 screenshot:

 

Message 6 of 21
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: S_G_I

Here is a graphic of what the other folks are describing. Granted my relief is not that pronounced

 

 

Thank you

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Message 7 of 21
AllenJessup
in reply to: antoniovinci

Yes Antonio. You really do. In Civil 3D you need to have the triangles on. If they are off

 

tri.PNG

 

Then all you will see is contours in 3D

 

cont.PNG

 



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 8 of 21
antoniovinci
in reply to: AllenJessup

Got it, Allen, but my Map works as I described, and I'm surprised that Civil needs to change the style...

Message 9 of 21
neilyj666
in reply to: antoniovinci

As I have said many times before the Map that comes with Civil isn't quite the same as the boxed standalone version of Map - MapLT?

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Message 10 of 21
AllenJessup
in reply to: antoniovinci

antoniovinci wrote:

 I'm surprised that Civil needs to change the style...



It's an attempt to let the user set it up as they need. Sometimes you want to see the surface and sometimes you don't Civil styles are very different from Map or Autocad. Very powerful, very complicated.



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Message 11 of 21
troma
in reply to: AllenJessup

So if you have the triangles turned off for 'Plan' but on for 'Model' they won't show up when you 3D orbit?  I don't do much 3D viewing, but I would have expected that they would.


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Message 12 of 21
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: troma

Hi t

 

if you don't want to see the triangle go to views>> manage view style and turn off isolines

Thank you

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Message 13 of 21
S_G_I
in reply to: AllenJessup

Hi All,

Thank you very much for your solutions. It helped a lot!

S_G_I

Message 14 of 21
AllenJessup
in reply to: troma


@troma wrote:

So if you have the triangles turned off for 'Plan' but on for 'Model' they won't show up when you 3D orbit?  I don't do much 3D viewing, but I would have expected that they would.



Pretty much the opposite. Anything that is on in Model will show in 3D. If it's off in Model it wont show in 3D. Model basically equals the 3D Model. The Plan view is the view looking directly down the Z. I don't mean to be obvious but Plan can mean a couple of things.



Allen Jessup
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Message 15 of 21
troma
in reply to: AllenJessup

Now I'm more confused.

 

Joe, how can I say this in the kindest way possible....I don't know what you're talking about. Smiley Embarassed  It doesn't appear to be relevant.

 

Allen, you say "the opposite" but then go on to agree with what I said.  Well, you agree with what I was trying to say.  On re-reading my original comment it does seem a little opaque.  But look back at the screen shot you posted.  You have the View Direction set to plan, and then you comment on the result to the view in 3D.  That's what I was questioning.


Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

Message 16 of 21
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: troma

I seem have an innate ability to confuse you Smiley Wink

 

I thought you were looking to find a way to view in 3d with out the triangles being on. Since the surface style requires triangles "on" in model view the easiest way I have found to not display them is to turn isolines off in the view style

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


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Message 17 of 21
AllenJessup
in reply to: troma

Joe meant if you don't want to see the triangles themselves. IOW the edges of the face.

 


@troma wrote:

off for 'Plan' but on for 'Model' they won't show up when you 3D orbit?


I think it's my poor screenshot that is confusing you. Since I knew what it was I didn't realize it could be easily misinterpreted. The screenshot is in 3D, a steep slope running from upper left to lower right. So with the triangles off in Model you only see the contours because they are on in the Model. AND of course I showed the wrong section of the Display tab. Here's what it should have looked like.

 

t2.PNG

 

Now with the triangle on

 

t3.PNG

 

It looks like this

 

t4.PNG

 

No vertical exaggeration. It's an area of damage from Hurricane Sandy.

 

Sorry for the confusion

 

 



Allen Jessup
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Message 18 of 21
troma
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Like I said, I don't do much 3D viewing, so probably I'm easily confussssd.  I was mixing up the terminology: "Faces" and "Triangles".  I've often found that I get a deeper understanding of a subject through a misunderstanding, and this is one of those occasions.

 

Can you give me a step-by-step instruction on changing this view style?  I'm not at all familiar with it.

Thanks!


Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

Message 19 of 21
troma
in reply to: AllenJessup

It was the wrong section of the Display tab that got me.  I think I'm getting with the program now. Smiley Tongue

 

So is that a 15' deep washout in that topo?  Wow!


Mark Green

Working on Civil 3D in Canada

Message 20 of 21
AllenJessup
in reply to: troma


@troma wrote:

So is that a 15' deep washout in that topo?  Wow!


More like 28 feet. It was already a slope. West bank of the Hudson River. But the original slope extended nearly to the normal high water mark. This has been cut back severely. It's obvious that we may need to do something to support our road above.

This is actually one of the less sever. The worst ones were stabilized with stone within a week, under emergency rights. Further south the road dips to near river level. We there were many boats blocking the road the next day.



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

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