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Performance Enhancement Tool

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jmayo-EE
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Performance Enhancement Tool

Anyone see and/or test this?

 

 

 

John Mayo

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Message 61 of 102
JamesMaeding
in reply to: Jeff_M

Yes, I completely agree. That means most c3d users cannot take the "delete Root of NOD" approach for files with c3d objects.

We ourselves do not do that to drawings we use for civil3d surfaces and grading objects.

 

The non-c3d crowd is affected by this too though, and is about 40% of consultants.

They are seeing files bloated by 1 mb and have no way to clean them.

On top of that, they suffer from the speed issue if OE's are installed.

 

I'm just wondering what made Autodesk take notice of the issue. It got ignored for years.


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Message 62 of 102
rkmcswain
in reply to: JamesMaeding

jmaeding wrote:

I'm just wondering what made Autodesk take notice of the issue. It got ignored for years.

Maybe @lou.holland or @louisa_holland can share this. 

R.K. McSwain     | CADpanacea | on twitter
Message 63 of 102
JamesMaeding
in reply to: rkmcswain

and if the autodesk team thinks they are fooling us with the "Performance Enhancement Tool" title, instead of calling this a long time bug fix, what must they think of us?

The fix was done for releases back to 2014, this telling you someone at Autodesk had a big OOPS moment.

 

It didn't work for Hillary to hide info, and it doesn't work for Autodesk either. We deserve some commentary from Autodesk on this.


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Message 64 of 102
JamesMaeding
in reply to: jmayo-EE

Um, did I just read future SP's will only be available through the Application Manager?

How do you automate that?

 

I have 100 users that need 2017 sp1.1, and they don't have admin rights, nor the authority to choose what SP's and other junk should be installed.

Surely Autodesk does not intend to have an admin log in and patch things manually.

Tell me I missed something, please, please


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Message 65 of 102
Cadguru42
in reply to: JamesMaeding


@jmaeding wrote:

Um, did I just read future SP's will only be available through the Application Manager?

How do you automate that?

 

I have 100 users that need 2017 sp1.1, and they don't have admin rights, nor the authority to choose what SP's and other junk should be installed.

Surely Autodesk does not intend to have an admin log in and patch things manually.

Tell me I missed something, please, please


I seriously hope that's not true. Not only that, I read that you will need to be a subscriber. If you're on the "old" VIP Program (showing my age, or maintenance, what does this mean? No more service packs?

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Message 66 of 102
JamesMaeding
in reply to: Cadguru42

we are waiting Autodesk.


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Message 67 of 102
JamesMaeding
in reply to: JamesMaeding

A couple friends said they could download the C3D 2017 sp 1.1 from their account page. They sent screenshots showing it.

But its missing from mine. I see c3d 2016 updates, but not 2017.

I do see our 2017 product listed, so its not an issue of adesk forgetting we own c3d 2017.

What's going on here? Are the c3d 2017 sp's supposed to be showing on the account page or not?


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Message 68 of 102
rkmcswain
in reply to: JamesMaeding

jmaeding wrote:

A couple friends said they could download the C3D 2017 sp 1.1 from their account page. They sent screenshots showing it.

It's available for us.

R.K. McSwain     | CADpanacea | on twitter
Message 69 of 102
rkmcswain
in reply to: lou.holland

lou.holland wrote:

#3: SP 1.1 not showing up in application manager is still a mystery. Thanks to your help I've given the team that develops that tool several logs.

If we had the proper GUID string name for the folder, and we created it and manually placed the SP1.1 exe file in there, would the installer pick it up and run with it - or are there more files that would have to be modified?

 

Below is my \Img\Updates folder that already includes the five updates shown.

 

up00.png

R.K. McSwain     | CADpanacea | on twitter
Message 70 of 102
rkmcswain
in reply to: jmayo-EE

Looks like the KB article on this was released this morning.

 

 

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Message 71 of 102
rkmcswain
in reply to: jmayo-EE

I have run into what looks and feels like a problem with this update. Using C3D 2014.

 

I have a drawing that when opened with the patch in place, crashes with a fatal error at the end of the open process.

If I restore the original .dbx file, the drawing opens fine.

 

The same drawing opens fine in 2016 and 2017.

 

Thoughts @lou.holland ?

R.K. McSwain     | CADpanacea | on twitter
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Message 72 of 102

Since replacing the AeccNetwork.dbx file to fix Civil 3D 2016, I have noticed an increase in errors reported using the AutoCAD AUDIT command. The errors relate to the AeccDBNetworkRule(xxxx).

 

The errors recur after fixing and then reopening the drawings. Any possible correlation to the performance fix?

 

 

Network Rule Error.PNG

Message 73 of 102
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: jmayo-EE

Am I to understand every file has to be opened and saved for the patch to work?

 

And pardon if I'm redundant: apply this to all acad and acad vertical installs or just civil3d installs?

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

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Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


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Message 74 of 102
AllenJessup
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Well. Yes. Each file has to be saved. However batch files are provided to do this it large groups.



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Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 75 of 102
rkmcswain
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Joe-Bouza wrote:

Am I to understand every file has to be opened and saved for the patch to work?

Yes. With the patch (new DBX file) in place, the unknown bloat is either stripped during the open process or during the save process. Either way it's gone after a save.

If a non-patched machine opens the file and saves, the bloat is back.

Joe-Bouza wrote:

And pardon if I'm redundant: apply this to all acad and acad vertical installs or just civil3d installs?

I don't think AeccNetwork.DBX is a file in AutoCAD. Not sure about other verticals.
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Message 76 of 102
AllenJessup
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

You'll only have one .dbx file for each year. So one for 2015, 2016, 2017, etc. Others reside in installation and deployment folders. @lou.holland I believe that a repair or reinstall will overwrite the new .dbx.



Allen Jessup
Engineering Specialist / CAD Manager

Message 77 of 102
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: AllenJessup

I saw that, but I and you and everyone else must have thousands of files on the servers, or do I have to open and save only-c3d related files?

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


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Message 78 of 102
Joe-Bouza
in reply to: AllenJessup

What confused me was that 2014 looks into a civil3d folder and 2015 looks into an acad folder and the white paper does not discuss any other acad installs. I trying to understand if the patch needs to be applied to MEP workstations

Thank you

Joseph D. Bouza, P.E. (one of 'THOSE' People)

HP Z210 Workstation
Intel Xeon CPU E31240 @ 3.30 Hz
12 GB Ram


Note: Its all Resistentialism, so keep calm and carry on

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Message 79 of 102
Partenheimer
in reply to: Joe-Bouza


@Joe-Bouza wrote:

What confused me was that 2014 looks into a civil3d folder and 2015 looks into an acad folder and the white paper does not discuss any other acad installs. I trying to understand if the patch needs to be applied to MEP workstations


Don't forget that older versions of Civil 3D installed the entire AutoCAD platform (in a separate Civil 3D folder) even if you already had plain AutoCAD installed. New versions of Civil 3D do not. They use the same AutoCAD platform as plain AutoCAD. (Even if you don't have plain AutoCAD installed.)AutoCAD2017.jpg

Have a look at my AutoCAD 2017 folder. I do NOT have Civil 3D 2017 installed so there is no AeccNetwork.dbx to even update.

 

Regards,

Michael Partenheimer

 

Message 80 of 102
JamesMaeding
in reply to: Joe-Bouza

Joe, the question is, do you have to open the files in the editor.

Because opening as side database, and not resolving xrefs is way faster, I will check on that as my app id/dwg cleaner does side database.


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