I have had Architecture 2011 installed for over8 months and have to reinstall it every couple of months due to its inability tostay together! It continually looses functions, plotstyles , icons, and the MIN/MAX/EXIT butttons (see the attachment for a picture) for the sheet or page (not the program) disappear and reappear at will forcing you top close the program and restart in order to minimze a drawing or get to another drawing. Why can't Auto Desk make its program run correctly...the world knows you guys hold Microsofts hands while developing the program but you function about as well as VISTA did until last year. AutoDesk acts like support is un necessary and cannot be bothered faulting everything but their work, you make "impovements " and break thing that were working fine and wonder why I curse you. No responability, no guts to stand by your product.
Subscription sucks as does your response time, Iget more responses from "NOBODY" than from a real tech. But what do I expect? because you cannot write a successful program and the cheaper solutuions work more reliably! NOT BETTER BUT YOU CAN DEPEND THAT THEY WON'T DO WHAT AUTODESK DOES AND SABOTAGE YOUR WORK.
The price keeps a lot of people from buying ADT, but it has gone down in price. It used be be about $5000 for adt alone and now you get a "package" of software. ADT 2012 by itself is around $3000 which is progress. What about other options such as a corporate and a personal use version. NO, I don't mean the student version. I do work on the side designing restaurants, bars and coffee shops and it'd be nice to have the current version at home, but the price stops me.
It's a thought that I know more than a few people share.
@mlanka, if you are on subscription you can install and have a 2nd licence running say at home for the price of subscription.
The aussie dollar is now trading above the US dollar but ADT is still around $7,000 here and I pay $1000 per yr sub to keep up to date for versions sitting on the shelf (waiting for a usable version to come along).
to Ryan, you should really follow up wtih VIsionrez and check out their cheaper packages based on ADT. Advanced functionalility not really used in residential much is removed and you get specialist tools for residential - if you are in the US or follow their practise it might well be a no brainer. You will get ADT on steroids for Resi work and the VR team are actually enthustistic about the product!
What's with the bury ADT? What version are you using anyway?
Oh and you get a great roofing tool with VR.
But also you might like to know you can do a lot more with the OOTB roof tool - there are tricks they don't tell you. I've blogged on them for you.
It's funny you're responding to a post from 2002, but lucky for you, I'm still around, albeit with a different account.
When I first made this thread I was a student and used ADT for making some renderings and playing around and much of what I said was off the cuff from just a few months of use. I obtained ACA in 2009 and now my outlook has changed about Revit v, ACA and I really hope they expand ACA by incorporating some of Revit's best features. ACA/ADT has improved a lot since then, although there's some things that I wished for that never came about that I still wish for, like the roofs.
Good to hear you are still around. They often will incorporate ideas from other programs. I think ACA is a very strong good option but I do think that some ideas should be marketed differently if you are using it for residential work. For roofs, if you've not visited my blog then you may not know lots of tricks in that roof object that are available. But continue to make noise about roof improvements, hopefully one day they'll get to it.
(the roof object in ACA12 was introduced in ADT1 version and not changed a bit since then. so I recon it's due for a workover).
Hey Nathan, the roof object did change around 2006/2005. Before then you couldn't apply materials, now you can, but that's all that has changed. Roof and floor slabs could do with work as well. I really like the ability in revit to raise or lower verticies and this would be a good addition to ACA.
well that's news indeed but was the change to the RO or was it to ADT? I no longer have those versions to test. aecMaterials were added around then so was it simply that new stuff was added elsewhere that the RO could play with. About the same time they changed ME's so you could add a RO to an ME. I'm not sure technically if they did anything to the RO or whether it was just a by product of the change to teh ME. Anyway yes they both were good changes and added usefullness to the RO and increased it's ability.
Yes the spot heights for slabs are a great idea, great for terraining slabs I think for driveways and access ways etc. for ACA yes I think everyone must find that addition very useful.
Can't remember exactly which version it happened, but the RO without a material assigned was less useful than now.
Apart from the families in revit, spot levels in slabs is about the only feature I find superior in modelling.