Cased Openings / Pass-through Doors in Schedules

Cased Openings / Pass-through Doors in Schedules

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Cased Openings / Pass-through Doors in Schedules

jimkedmondson
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Hello,

 

I was wondering if there is an easy wall to make the cased opening (pass through) door style not appear in door schedules.  I would like to just turn off its "tag-ability" so that they cannot be tagged like doors and don't appear in schedules.  I'm using ACA 2015.

 

Thanks,

 

Jim

 

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David_W_Koch
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You could use a Classification Definition, which can be applied at the Door Style level, and assign different classifications to Door Styles that should appear in the Door Schedule and items that should not appear in the Door Schedule.  In the Door Schedule Style, on the Applies To tab, you then choose only the classification assigned to Door Styles to be scheduled.

 

As for blocking the ability to Tag, I have never tried this and do not have time to test it right now, but you might be able to use the same Classification Definition to limit the Door Styles to which your Property Defintions apply.  That might limit the Door Styles to which a Schedule Tag applies, although I cannot promise that is the case.  (You can use the Classification Definition to prevent the Property Set from being attached to a non-schedulable Door; not sure if that is enough to prevent the Door from being tagged.)

 

If I get some time tomorrow, I will try to look into this.


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David_W_Koch
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I looked at this in a little more depth.  I created a Classification Definition that had two Classifications, Schedule and No Schedule.  I was then able to use those classifications to exclude Doors from a Schedule Table (as expected, having done so many times in the past) and was also able to use these to prevent the ability to manually add a Property Set to an object or style.

 

But even when every Property Set referenced by a Schedule Tag was set to Schedule, that did not prevent me from being able to tag an object whose classification was set to No Schedule, and the tags were anchored to the objects.  After tagging, I did notice that the object-based Property Set referenced by the tag was not applied to the object, and the visible tag property value, which was in the object-based Property Set, remained at the default value.  Surprisingly, the style-based Property Sets that were set to Schedule were still added to the Door Style that had been classified as No Schedule.

 

So, you can keep your cased opening Doors out of your Door Schedule, but you cannot prevent someone from tagging the cased opening.  If tagged, the tags will not display any object-based property values, as those will not be attached to the object.


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leothebuilder
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In lieu of a cased opening "door" style, why not use an Opening in the wall.

You could add the casing as custom blocks id needed.

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alexKoshman
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I think because of the Openings don't have a Style!..

It's awful!.. ; ))

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