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GrantsPirate
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Message 11 of 21 (90 Views)

Re: XREFS SCALING

07-16-2014 12:12 PM in reply to: jest2525

There is no way you can assume any emotion from the words in my response, (hint: there wasn't any) just a simple statement of fact and truly interested in why you asked a question you knew the answer to.

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CADEngr2014
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Message 12 of 21 (90 Views)

Re: XREFS SCALING

07-16-2014 12:32 PM in reply to: jonpage

Jon,

 

Thanks for that thought;  The only thing that has changed since this started to occur, is my coordinate units were changed from US Survey Feet to International Feet, the coordinate remained the same.  I do not imagine that should cause this type of problem, but it is a difference of units, as you mentioned.

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jest2525
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Message 13 of 21 (87 Views)

Re: XREFS SCALING

07-16-2014 12:38 PM in reply to: GrantsPirate

I'm not arrogant enough to assume there is only one answer.  That's why the question was asked.

 

And yes, words and the assemblage of them into a statement can evoke emotion (even if you said there was none).  That's what I read... but then that's just me.

 

Thanks for your insight though. :smileyhappy: 

 

 

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jonpage
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Message 14 of 21 (80 Views)

Re: XREFS SCALING

07-16-2014 01:15 PM in reply to: jest2525

Since you changed the units on the location units of one of the drawings, it would scale if you used the option "Locate using Geographic Data".  That could also have scaled the xref.

 

I don't think there is a problem asking why even when you know the answer.  My answer might differ from your answer.  It helps others searching for similar questions, but not posting.

 

 

Hope this helps,

Jon

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Autodesk, Inc.
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drjohn
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Message 15 of 21 (73 Views)

Re: XREFS SCALING

07-16-2014 01:31 PM in reply to: jest2525

jest2525 wrote:

Calm down dude.  Why you so angry?  Not a reaction I'd expect from an "Expert Elite".

 

To answer your question... why does anybody ask?  To learn... even at my ripe old age.  I never once said "Do it my way as it is the only way!"  I'm just curious what other needs may be.  Is that ok?

 

Jeez!


Careful here ... your burning a very valuable resource.

 

Assume no emotion unless it is delivered (eg: :smileymad: or :heart:  or :smileyfrustrated: ) visually.

 

If you want to see condescending, read a few of pendean's posts and then read GrantsPirate's posts.  Notice the difference.

 

Just  FYI  :smileyhappy:

 

 

Regards,

DJ

 

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jest2525
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Message 16 of 21 (58 Views)

Re: XREFS SCALING

07-16-2014 02:58 PM in reply to: drjohn

I've been known to be a valuable resourse too.  I worked for what today is considered the largest engineering company in the world for almost 2 decades.  Though I left them almost 9 years ago, they still call me when they have CAD issues.  So you see, I do know a bit about what I do... and am still willing to learn by asking seemingly dumb questions.

 

All in all though, banter is good if it teaches someone something.  Right?

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CADEngr2014
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Message 17 of 21 (47 Views)

Re: XREFS SCALING

07-17-2014 04:43 AM in reply to: jonpage

JonPage,

 

We are using unitless drawing files, and setting INSUNITS=2 seems to be the only setting that resloves the scaling issue.  In our Drawing Units dialog, we have Type set to Decimal, Insertion Scale set to "Unitless" which has always been the case as far as I remember.  However, since we are using "unitless" insertion scale units, why shouldn't we be using INSUNITS=0?

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CADEngr2014
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Message 18 of 21 (41 Views)

Re: XREFS SCALING

07-17-2014 05:04 AM in reply to: CADEngr2014

JonPage,

 

Ok, I found the problem.  We are set-up to use unitless files and INSUNITS=0.  However, in one of my refeence files, I found the units were set to feet.  So the system will scale the referenced file by a factor of 12 to bring it into a file that is set to unitless.  Not usre if there is a way to cause a files units to change to feet from unitless, without explicitly toggling the change?

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Message 19 of 21 (35 Views)

Re: XREFS SCALING

07-17-2014 08:59 AM in reply to: CADEngr2014
 
Jon Page
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jonpage
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Message 20 of 21 (34 Views)

Re: XREFS SCALING

07-17-2014 09:04 AM in reply to: jonpage

Well I guess I need to stop using IE for this forum... previewed and all text disappeared.  :smileyfrustrated:

 

@CADEngr2014 

I'm assuming you are running plain AutoCAD.  There are three places that you can change the INSUNITS of the drawing.

INSUNITS sysvar at command line

Drawing Units dialog - UNITS command

Geographic Location dialog - GEOGRAPHICLOCATION command

 

Other versions of AutoCAD like AutoCAD Architecture have additional ways to specify units.

Jon Page
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Autodesk, Inc.
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