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Fritzjr
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How to create a smaller area of a floorplan into a new floorplan/file?

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12-12-2012 03:45 PM

Hi, I've been given a cannon to kill an ant - so to speak.  I have no background with AutoCAD 2013, but my boss has given me the software and tasked me with taking entire floorplans of an individual floor .dwg and create smaller areas of each floor into separate, new .dwg's (like several rooms together) that then could be converted into .pdf's for sharing and/or printing.  I have tried to find a simple tutorial or explaination of how to do this, but AutoCAD is such an amazing and complex tool that I'm having trouble with the terminology even.  If I had someone to sit with me for 5 minutes I know I would be up and running, but I don't, so I'm asking you for your help.  Can anyone describe a very simple way to do this?

 

I was right-clicking on the 'Model' tab to create a 'New Layout', right-clicking that to get to 'Page Set-Up Manager' and 'Modify'ing that to select 11 x 17, Landscape, and 'Adobe PDF' in the Printer dialog box.  When I worked in the new Layout window sometimes I could zoom in to a section of the floorplan and then go to 'A' button in the upper left corner and select 'Print' and sometimes the resulting .PDF file would be that smaller section, and sometimes it would still just be the whole floorplan.  I'm tearing what little hair I have left out!

 

Any help would really be appreciated!

 

Thanks

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kentw
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Re: How to create a smaller area of a floorplan into a new floorplan/file?

12-12-2012 04:53 PM in reply to: Fritzjr

You have two options

1.  Use the WBLOCK command to create a new dwg of the selected objects

 

2.  As you have been trying to do use layout tabs.  This is probably the better method

as you have done create a new layout tab with the correct settings

once you have one layout tab you can copy that so there is no need to redo the settings

in the layout run the command MVIEW and draw a rectangle

You are likely to see the entire drawing inside the rectangle

run the command MS this will activate the rectangle (called a viewport)

using the zoom tools zoom into the desired area

now down the bottom of the application there will be a button to set the desired scale of the viewport

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Select the desired scale

at the command line run PS to deactivate the viewport and print

 

 

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Fritzjr
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Re: How to create a smaller area of a floorplan into a new floorplan/file?

12-13-2012 02:10 PM in reply to: Fritzjr

Thanks KentW.

 

I liked the second option and have been trying it, but I must still be doing something wrong.  When I get to the point of using the MVIEW command and drawing the rectangle - I do see the entire drawing inside the rectangle, but it is superimposed over the original drawing and when I follow the rest of your steps, it creates the PDF the same way with the 2 drawings superimposed over each other.  Bummer!  What am I doing wrong?

 

Thanks again!

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dbroad
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Re: How to create a smaller area of a floorplan into a new floorplan/file?

12-13-2012 02:25 PM in reply to: Fritzjr

There is a bug that creates a copy of the viewport in paper space but it is most likely that you already have a viewport in paper space and are adding a second viewport overlapping the first.  When layouts are created, a viewport is usually added by default.

 

A 3rd technique would involve setting up a sheet set.  1)Create a template drawing that has your titleblock, pagesetup, dimensioning, units, styles and layers ready.  2)Create the sheet set by using the large floor plan as a resource.  Within that plan set the annotation scale as desired for the small scale plans and then create lots of views (naming would be the major difficulty here).  3)Add sheets via SSM and then drag the views onto separate sheets.  The viewport, xreffing, and titling of views would be done automatically.  Large learning curve but very good productivity after initial setup.

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Fritzjr
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Re: How to create a smaller area of a floorplan into a new floorplan/file?

12-13-2012 03:34 PM in reply to: dbroad

dbroad - thanks for the reply.

 

I don't have the time or a resource to help me learn the method in your second paragraph, but thanks for the info.

 

As far as your first paragraph goes, that seems to be the most likely case - so how to I troubleshoot that scenario and fix it?  How do I determine how many viewports are open and how do I kill the one I don't want once I have identified it?

 

Thanks!

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dbroad
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Re: How to create a smaller area of a floorplan into a new floorplan/file?

12-13-2012 03:52 PM in reply to: Fritzjr

just select everything in the layout (CTRL+A), then using the properties palette (CTRL+1), select from the top filter just the viewports.  Once those are filtered, hit delete.  Then add a new viewport.

 

Once you get the layout like you want, just copy the layout tab with all its contents.  Do not add another viewport to the copied layout.  Just pan to what you want to plot and choose the scale.

 

Unfortunately, you have been given a very complex program to use.  There are no shortcuts to learning it.  Sign up for a class near you or by internet.

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drjohn
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Re: How to create a smaller area of a floorplan into a new floorplan/file?

12-14-2012 08:16 AM in reply to: Fritzjr

Maybe >>>THIS<<< will help

 

There are also other tutorials on YOUTUBE.COM

 

 

Regards,

DJ

 

 

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Fritzjr
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Re: How to create a smaller area of a floorplan into a new floorplan/file?

12-14-2012 08:32 AM in reply to: drjohn

You all have been great.  I'm a project manager, not a designer, architect or draftsman, but I enjoy learning new things and I realize what a complicated package this is and why it takes years to master.  I just needed to do something pretty basic real quickly to help out some other people find things in areas of the hospital that had not been broken out into smaller (Unit) based drawings and converted to PDf so they could view/print them.  I will take some classes at some point just for my personal growth and so I can be more efficient if I ever need to use it again.  I am making some progress with some files, but am not always sure why it's working sometimes and then sometimes it's not.  I'll keep plugging away! 

 

Thanks again, cheers and have a great weekend and Holidays!

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Fritzjr
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Re: How to create a smaller area of a floorplan into a new floorplan/file?

12-14-2012 01:29 PM in reply to: Fritzjr

I just managed to somehow lose the entire bar at the bottom of the screen that showed all the viewports for each floorplan and no matter which floorplan I open it appears I did it globally somehow!  They were all shown at the bottom by default, but something I did with minimizing or maximizing the viewable area lost them for all files.  How do I get them back?  You know, the tabs at the bottom that started with Model on the left and continued across to the right.  Oops!

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sthompson1021
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Re: How to create a smaller area of a floorplan into a new floorplan/file?

12-14-2012 01:41 PM in reply to: Fritzjr

Hi, did you somehow get to the options screen? The display model and layout tabs box needs to be checked.

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