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Arrows on '0' layer in PDF

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Message 1 of 22
cve60069
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Arrows on '0' layer in PDF

Hello

 

When I publish to PDF, the arrows on my dimensions and multileader are on the zero-later even though I drew them on a TEXT layer.  How do I stop this please?

 

Regards

 

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Message 2 of 22
Charles_Shade
in reply to: cve60069

Is the Block that Defines the Arrow drawn on the Text Layer?

If it is an OOTB Arrow then it likely is drawn on Layer 0.

You can create your own arrow on the Layer you wish and use that as the Arrow for your Dimstyle.

Message 3 of 22
pendean
in reply to: cve60069

In adition to the advice above... You appear to be drawing on Layer 0 (parts of your floor plan also disappear in the PDF, lower right corner): this is never a good idea, layer 0 should either contain nothing active or if you do draw on it you should have only content you ALWAYS want to display. Always. So many things core/specific to AutoCAD rely on layer 0 remaining on (as you found out) so change your drafting behavior.

Consider changing your file content to custom layers if my observation of your PDF is correct.
Message 4 of 22
cve60069
in reply to: pendean

Sorry. That doesn't solve the problem. All my drawings are sent out on
layers. Nothing on the '0' layer. I attached a draft showing the
problem with the arrows, forget the drawing, thats not the issue. The
text and arrows are on the same layer called TEXT. The arrows should go
off with text, they do in the drawing, not in the PDF. The leader is set
to ByLayer as is the content. The problem persisted in CAD 2013.

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Message 5 of 22
nestly2
in reply to: cve60069

Can you attach a sample drawing... just a little bit of geometry and at least one dimension/leader that ends up on the wrong layer in PDF

Message 6 of 22
pendean
in reply to: cve60069

I'm looking at your PDF, and when you turn off layer 0 a lot more than just arrows disappear: there was no DWG attachment in your reply, if you want to solve the problem that's what you need to post.

Message 7 of 22
cve60069
in reply to: pendean

Dear all

Thank you for the interest. I attach a drawing and pdf showing the
problem. It is something to do with the zero layer as I created an arrow
on the text layer and it was ok (see arrow.pdf). I copied all my text
styles onto the TEXT layer in the styles drawing before I ^C (example 2)
and it did not work. And what of my objects. Must I draw nothing on
the zero layer.

Regards

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Message 8 of 22
nestly2
in reply to: cve60069

For very simple drawings where everything is drawn on one layer, perhaps drawing on Layer 0 is OK, but as soon as layers need to be turned ON/OFF or FROZEN/THAWED, then it's better not to use Layer 0 as those other layers (and certain types of objects) have unique dependancies to Layer0.

Message 9 of 22
cve60069
in reply to: nestly2

That doesn't explain why the arrows are on a zero layer in the PDF and
not in the drawing. I was taught to draw on the zero layer as the
attributes are also set to zero and will adopt the properties of the
layer copied to. I use my objects on many layers and I do not want to
explode or redraw every time I want a block. As for turning off the zero
layer, I never do. Its the PDF I am interested in. Personally, I wish it
would not show in the PDF, there is supposed to be nothing on it.

Regards

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Message 10 of 22
pendean
in reply to: cve60069

No attachments came through.

And yes, IMHO, never draw anything on layer zero except maybe, if it works for your needs, the contents of universal blocks you likely use on many layers.
Message 11 of 22
nestly2
in reply to: cve60069


@cve60069 wrote:
That doesn't explain why the arrows are on a zero layer in the PDF and
not in the drawing. I was taught to draw on the zero layer as the
attributes are also set to zero and will adopt the properties of the
layer copied to. I use my objects on many layers and I do not want to
explode or redraw every time I want a block. 

Object within blocks usually should be on Layer0,  obects within the drawing should not.  I think a quick resolution could be found with a sample drawing.  (if the drawing won't attach as a .dwg, put it in a .zip and attach it)

Message 12 of 22
cve60069
in reply to: nestly2

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Message 13 of 22
cve60069
in reply to: nestly2

I am not sure if I am uploading properly. I am attaching files again.

 

Message 14 of 22
cve60069
in reply to: cve60069

That's better

 

Message 15 of 22
nestly2
in reply to: cve60069

Well.... this breaks all the other rules about blocks and Layer 0. Smiley Surprised

 

Apparently, there's not much that can be done except using the default Closed filled arrowhead, or redefining the arrowhead block(s) 

 

Autodesk Knowledge Base: --> Leader and dimension arrowhead blocks display on different layer when printed to PDF Document

Message 16 of 22
cve60069
in reply to: cve60069

Hello

 

Sorry I have not replied to your advice earlier. Up to my neck at the moment.

 

I attach a dwg and pdf called example. I staretd from scratch, created a text c10, a dimension c10f and a leader c10; all on the text layer; nothing on the zero layer. I created the object on the zero layer and moved it to the object layer. I then published the drawing to pdf.

 

The arrows are still on the zero-layer.

 

I think I will have to live with this annoyance or use a third-party printer. Turn off TEXT and the arrows remain. Looks stupid.

 

Thanks for the help.

 

Regards

Message 17 of 22
cve60069
in reply to: nestly2

Thanks for the link. I have just read it.
Message 18 of 22
Edwin
in reply to: cve60069

I've applied advised solutions (in AutoCAD Map 2014) but also am having the same issue.

 

Would greatly appreciate someone out there with his guru-ship.

 

Thanks and regards. 

 

Smiley Indifferent

Message 19 of 22
matarison
in reply to: cve60069

I'm not sure all the replies to this really understood what the issue was but I have just found the exact same problem (hence why I checked to see if anyone had a solution). Anyway, through trial & error I think I've solved it. If you turn off the visibilty of the zero layer before converting to PDF, everything seems to work out ok.

remCAD
Message 20 of 22
cve60069
in reply to: matarison

matarison

 

Well done for solving a problem that has bugged me for years.

 

Many thanks

 

Daniel

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