Y'know, after all this time, after all these iterations of the product, and after so long telling us how wonderful it is, you'd think Autodesk would've managed to get some of the fundamentals right, maybe even fix some of the things people have been flagging up for years.....
Take the Layer Properties Manager - even now, in the 2012 product, it still doesn't work. You switch columns off ... they come back again. You resize columns ... they reset to something arbitrary. You beat it with a large stick ... it still doesn't do what you want.
How can it be that something as basic as layer management is such an arduous task after all these years of alleged improvement and refinement of the product? And it's not just the LPM, of course. Oh no. We also have to put up with annotative scaling that never does what it's supposed to. And an "intuitive" ribbon that's a bugger to get working inuitively. And crashes when you want to do something incredibly difficult and resource-hungry like draw a line, or move a single object (I know, I know, I'm asking *far* too much!)
I'm well aware that people have been going on about this sort of stuff for years now, but Zarking Fardwarks! and swutting Belgium, man! ... when are Autodesk going to get their act together and give us software that actually does the basics?! Most people couldn't give a wet slap how fancy the interface is, just as long as it does its job properly!
Come on, Autodesk. Either fix the bloody software, or drop the price. Fair's fair. Some of us have been beta testing AutoCAD for 20 years now, or so it seems. It'd be nice to get the *finished* product some time soon .....
(Thanks for reading. I just needed to get it off my chest.)
Thank you for your response, firmly laying the blame for all the problems in AutoCAD on the OS and/or computer, but not the software itself.
You don't work for Autodesk by any chance, do you? I'm just guessing..... ;-)
And if you do follow Dean's advice (which I highly recommend) be sure to follow this procedure:
and not scrimp on just a Windows standard program removal. It won't do the job. If you still have problems after a reinstall your problems are likely unrelated to AutoCAD.
So I've now got the 2013 product installed and guess what? Yup, the Layer Properties Manager *still* doesn't work. And the "intuitive" ribbon *still* manages to slow down the work process. And dialogue boxes *still* mysteriously reset themselves to default sizes - if they're even able to be resized, that is.
Same old, same old.
No, it's got nothing to do with the OS, before any of you Autodesk apologists throw in your two cents. You don't even know what OS I'm running, so how can any of you say that's the cause of the problems. It's issues like this - and there are many others relating to basic functionality - that have been dogging AutoCAD products for umpteen generations of the software. I can remember massive problems being encountered with layer management as far back as R14 at least!
Is it too much to ask that Autodesk get round to sorting out the basics before bombarding us with further "upgrades" that don't fix the simple stuff but also introduce new things that aren't fully functional? We pay a frikkin' HUGE amount for this software, particularly so outside the good ol' Yoo Ess of Ay where we actually seem to be subsidising the US market. And what do we get? Increasingly bloated software that's forever introducing largely pointless enhancements, but still doesn't fix the stuff that was broken years ago.
I know I'm repeating myself here, but what's new? Users have been crying out for things to get fixed for years and yet they never *do* get fixed.
Come on, Autodesk. Pull your bloody fingers out and fix the problems. Please? Otherwise I'm going to try out a better alternative .... Etch-A-Sketch.
In general, failure to retain settings of a workspace is usually due to one of the following:
1)resetting the software to default.
2)an enterprise level cui or customization instended to limit a users changes to software environment.
3)something like ghost that protects a region of the disk from changes.
4)an overly ambitions registry cleaner.
5)failure to save the workspace settings.
Ok, so we all get it. You're not happy. But hardly anyone else is chiming in and agreeing with you. My Layers Properties Manager works fine. Those issues you mention don't occur on my end. The intuitive ribbon also works fine on my end. So what is the major difference between your system makeup and the rest of us who aren't having any issues?
I'm only asking all these because, obviously, the rest of us who are responding here have yet to encounter those issues.
In response to posts like this and requests from many of our users, we recently undertook the task of creating our own Layer Manager in the ClassicLayer (modal dialog) style. While it looks like AutoCAD, under the hood are dozens of additional capabilities such as draworder by layer, merging layers, change case and much more.
And of course we save the column order, visibility and width for the next session.
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