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*Terry W. Dotson
Message 11 of 33 (577 Views)

Re: Just a gripe for Autodesk developers

05-28-2010 06:25 AM in reply to: sbrusco
On 5/28/2010 12:55 AM, Owen Wengerd wrote:

> There's nothing now, but give me some meat: specifically which
> Windows setting(s) are being ignored? Are you referring to the
> AutoCAD main window? If not, which window(s) (in which AutoCAD
> versions)?

Primarily the main window (including no rounded corners on classic
windows classic setting), caption bar and menu strip. Most dialogs seem
to honor the current settings. On AutoCAD 2009 and higher.

Worth double your new license price to me, especially if it did it
without any visual noise such as flicker during startup, resize.

Even those who like rounded corners may have a high contrast (or just
different) color scheme as their preference and it's IGNORED with the
Autodesk follows Microsoft scheme.

Terry
*Owen Wengerd
Message 12 of 33 (577 Views)

Re: Just a gripe for Autodesk developers

05-28-2010 07:51 AM in reply to: sbrusco
Terry:

I typically set my Windows UI to something basic immediately after I
install, then never muck with it. So just to clarify, the AutoCAD main
window currently has rounded corners in Classic, but it should not; and it
currently does not honor high contrast settings, but it should. Is this on
any version of Windows, or is it something specific to certain version(s)?
I'll do some testing and see if I can come up with anything.
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VP Americas, CADLock, Inc. <>


"Terry W. Dotson" wrote in message
news:6399361@discussion.autodesk.com...
> On 5/28/2010 12:55 AM, Owen Wengerd wrote:
>
>> There's nothing now, but give me some meat: specifically which
>> Windows setting(s) are being ignored? Are you referring to the
>> AutoCAD main window? If not, which window(s) (in which AutoCAD
>> versions)?
>
> Primarily the main window (including no rounded corners on classic
> windows classic setting), caption bar and menu strip. Most dialogs seem
> to honor the current settings. On AutoCAD 2009 and higher.
>
> Worth double your new license price to me, especially if it did it
> without any visual noise such as flicker during startup, resize.
>
> Even those who like rounded corners may have a high contrast (or just
> different) color scheme as their preference and it's IGNORED with the
> Autodesk follows Microsoft scheme.
>
> Terry
*Terry W. Dotson
Message 13 of 33 (577 Views)

Re: Just a gripe for Autodesk developers

05-28-2010 08:00 AM in reply to: sbrusco
On 5/28/2010 10:51 AM, Owen Wengerd wrote:

> Is this on any version of Windows, or is it something specific to
> certain version(s)?

For my purposes, Windows Vista and 7 (64bit) but as you're well aware
others could be using XP/32, etc.

Terry
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Message 14 of 33 (577 Views)

Re: Just a gripe for Autodesk developers

05-28-2010 10:21 AM in reply to: sbrusco
I use the "Vista Basic" and the equivalent on Windows 7 which turns off all the transparency/aero crap. AutoCAD then has a dark grey titlebar with white text which is high contrast and all the dialogs seem to obey the regular windows settings which is a light blue gradient with black text and that is also high contrast.

I find that is also the best setting for doing dialog screen captures for inserting in Word documents, it gives great contrast when printed, far better than XP's look which is kind of gaudy in comparison. It's a great update on Windows Classic for people who don't like the flash but want something modern looking. Edited: Sorry that was supposed to be in reply to Terry's comments about contrast
*Owen Wengerd
Message 15 of 33 (577 Views)

Re: Just a gripe for Autodesk developers

05-30-2010 12:37 PM in reply to: sbrusco
Terry:

I've tested AutoCAD 2009 and AutoCAD 2011 with the built-in Windows
Classic and High Contrast themes in Windows 7, and I don't see the problem.
Can you post a screen shot showing what you see and describe the problem
more precisely?
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Owen Wengerd
President, ManuSoft <>
VP Americas, CADLock, Inc. <>


"Terry W. Dotson" wrote in message
news:6399452@discussion.autodesk.com...
> On 5/28/2010 10:51 AM, Owen Wengerd wrote:
>
>> Is this on any version of Windows, or is it something specific to
>> certain version(s)?
>
> For my purposes, Windows Vista and 7 (64bit) but as you're well aware
> others could be using XP/32, etc.
>
> Terry
*Terry W. Dotson
Message 16 of 33 (577 Views)

Re: Just a gripe for Autodesk developers

05-30-2010 01:27 PM in reply to: sbrusco
On 5/30/2010 3:37 PM, Owen Wengerd wrote:

> I've tested AutoCAD 2009 and AutoCAD 2011 with the built-in Windows
> Classic and High Contrast themes in Windows 7, and I don't see the
> problem. Can you post a screen shot showing what you see and describe
> the problem more precisely?

Here is a capture from Vista.

Terry
*Owen Wengerd
Message 17 of 33 (577 Views)

Re: Just a gripe for Autodesk developers

05-30-2010 03:14 PM in reply to: sbrusco
Gotcha. I'll see what I can do.
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Owen Wengerd
President, ManuSoft <>
VP Americas, CADLock, Inc. <>


"Terry W. Dotson" wrote in message
news:6400119@discussion.autodesk.com...
> On 5/30/2010 3:37 PM, Owen Wengerd wrote:
>
>> I've tested AutoCAD 2009 and AutoCAD 2011 with the built-in Windows
>> Classic and High Contrast themes in Windows 7, and I don't see the
>> problem. Can you post a screen shot showing what you see and describe
>> the problem more precisely?
>
> Here is a capture from Vista.
>
> Terry
>
*R.K. McSwain
Message 18 of 33 (577 Views)

Re: Just a gripe for Autodesk developers

05-30-2010 05:25 PM in reply to: sbrusco
Terry W. Dotson wrote:
> Here is a capture from Vista.
>
> Terry

It's not like the 'MapSkinMap' thing went over well....

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http://cadpanacea.com
*Terry W. Dotson
Message 19 of 33 (577 Views)

Re: Just a gripe for Autodesk developers

05-30-2010 06:13 PM in reply to: sbrusco
On 5/30/2010 8:25 PM, R.K. McSwain wrote:

> It's not like the 'MapSkinMap' thing went over well....

That thing also slowed down the app, not that this doesn't.

It's not asking a lot for a Windows application to honor the desktop
settings, whether they be classic (like me) or a high contrast color
scheme for visually impaired, or someone's favorite color scheme.

Two shades of gray, take it or leave it, because Microsoft says it
should be so! Reminds me of DOS graphics applications in the 80's.

Terry
*Dave Jones
Message 20 of 33 (577 Views)

Re: Just a gripe for Autodesk developers

05-30-2010 07:49 PM in reply to: sbrusco
On 5/30/2010 6:13 PM, Terry W. Dotson wrote:
> Reminds me of DOS graphics applications in the 80's.
>
> Terry

uh, you are like...soooo Old :smileyhappy:
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