AutoCAD 2010/2011/2012

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jz4all
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deleted (Registered applications) come back after deleting

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10-16-2012 04:22 AM

Hi,

I try to purg the Registered applications every time I use a drawing by using the command (-pu ---> r). After deleting these applications, if I repeat the command again or after a short time, I find the same number of applications. And again delete them. How can I realy delete them and they don't turn back to the drwaing?

 

Thanks

 

Jaf

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pendean
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Re: deleted (Registered applications) come back after deleting

10-16-2012 05:58 AM in reply to: jz4all

Which applications? There is almost never an instance of zero apps in a DWG file BTW.
What exact version of AutoCAD are you using?

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jz4all
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Re: deleted (Registered applications) come back after deleting

10-17-2012 02:03 AM in reply to: pendean

Thanks for your reaction.

I use AutoCAD ver. 2010.

exampels of applications:

AcadAnnoPO

ACAD_EXEMPT_FROM_CAD_STANDARDS

...etc. some times hunderds to thousends.

After deleting them using (-pu---->r), they turn back.

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Re: deleted (Registered applications) come back after deleting

10-17-2012 07:53 AM in reply to: jz4all

That one is normal, as are a few others.

if you INSERT or attached blocks and drawings, you get a lot more than come along with the ride.

 

Are you experiencing any issues? I've never seen a problem that required these to be purged other than personal preference.

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Re: deleted (Registered applications) come back after deleting

10-18-2012 03:35 AM in reply to: pendean

Thanks Dean,

 Actually, I find it annoying, but I have no problem with it. Only I get a feeling that using the command (-pu) is useless.

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pendean
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Re: deleted (Registered applications) come back after deleting

10-19-2012 06:40 AM in reply to: jz4all

You can set up a startup lisp that can run everytime you open a file; or add this lisp to your QSAVE button to do the same, then just forget doing anything manually for the most part.

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Re: deleted (Registered applications) come back after deleting

01-18-2013 04:11 PM in reply to: jz4all

Actually, far from harmless, I've found 1M filespace taken up with these "registered applications".  What is unforgivable is that AutoDesk allow these to be inherited from xrefs -- not just imported from blocks.  To get rid of them, you have to purge them from every single file xref'd in a drawing.  Test by purging -r the master drawing then reloading each xref one at a time it into the master drawing.  If the reload results in loads of registered applications being deleted then the xref that's just be reloaded is the source of the registered applications.  This behaviour is close to virus-like and AutoDask should know better.

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Re: deleted (Registered applications) come back after deleting

01-19-2013 07:54 PM in reply to: jz4all
Not sure we are talking about the same thing, but an interesting set of assumptions anyway
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Re: deleted (Registered applications) come back after deleting

01-21-2013 11:08 AM in reply to: nedwards9820

That is intended, and proper, behavior.  Consider that the REGAPP entry is required for XDATA in the file being XREF'd.  That XDATA may be queried in the host drawing, so that REGAPP (*registered* application) must be available in the host drawing as well for the XDATA to function.  Same thing with blocks and clipboard copy-pastes.  I've had a few thousand in a file but nothing accumulating to the size described.  After all, its just a short text string and each one must be uniquely named (eg. there won't be 200 "MYAPP" entries).  In my experience its more likely file size bloating is from data entries in the drawing that the REGAPP entry is supporting.

 

If these are truly "rogue" REGAPPs then they will need to be scrubbed from all sources - blocks and XREFs alike.

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Re: deleted (Registered applications) come back after deleting

01-21-2013 11:19 AM in reply to: dgorsman
I will try and find an example if the 1M file bloat this XREF regapp can cause --- and as it is virus-like in effect (just XREF the file once and the bloat can spread to all files in a project or many projects) it can rapidly spread through hundreds of files and be almost impossible to eliminate.
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